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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 02:15
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VC-10 on the series "The Crown"

While enjoying the mini series "The Crown" third season, I have been impressed with the accuracy of vehicles used in the scenes. This evening, I enjoyed the many scenes with BOAC VC-10's. I'm presuming that these have been added by imaging, rather than being real VC-10s? I recall seeing an RAF VC-10 flying at Farnborough in 1982, but I'm guessing that they've all been retired by now? So I should be crediting super art for the series, rather than obtaining (and painting into BOAC livery) real VC-10s?
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Duxfords I believe

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Correction its the Tanker at Dunsfold

VC10s in the Media

The Netflix series The Crown has used a VC10 on a number of occasions. Dunsfold-based ZA150 did the honours, while the colourscheme changes were done using CGI.
which explains why they are using the galley door, the main one on the other side having being replaced with the escape slide.

Duxford one BTW
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Fascinating, thanks!
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How to CGI a VC-10:

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It was most certainly G-ASGC, I flew it many times. But why, in that clip, do they have the Queen disembarking from the galley door? Did they just reverse the film?
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The Viscount 700 and Britannia 300 were Duxfordís too. I think the DC-4 painted as a BOAC Hermes was probably one of the North Weald twins? ( in earlier series). Excellent use of accurate and available airframes, though some of the missions undertaken by the Dove/Devon have been a bit ambitious.
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Here you go, more or less all of them bar the 10

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During my time at Brize Norton in the 70's the Royals flew RAF, not BOAC. We would fit out two aircraft in Royal Configuration for tours by Her Majesty and/or The Duke of Edinburgh, one prepared by the Hangar and the other by the Line.

Another error was the transportation of the Duke of Windsor's body back to UK (RAF Benson) in the cabin of a stripped out VC10. He was actually repatriated in the forward lower freight compartment of an ordinary RAF VC10. I can recall no occasion on which the cabin trim would be removed for any reason other than maintenance.

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It was most certainly G-ASGC, I flew it many times. But why, in that clip, do they have the Queen disembarking from the galley door? Did they just reverse the film?
Because it was filmed (at least the external bits) using ZA150, the K4 tanker that's at Dunsfold. That VC10 doesn't have a forward pax door anymore as that was sealed shut during its conversion (originally converted to act as an escape slide, as NutLoose mentioned above).

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The Duke of Edinburgh's body?

He might be getting on a bit, but he's not dead yet!

Do you mean the Duke of Windsor?
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I guess he does...

See link for a photo confirming that the forward freight hold was used. AFAIK XV104 was used on this occasion.

https://bnps.photoshelter.com/galler...000lckOiUSxBWA
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Just a shame the people doing the CGI BOAC VC10 left the refuelling probe on.
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They started with an already available 3D VC10 model, which happened to be based on a tanker version. I have been in touch with them about this and they were certainly embarrased by that mistake. The end result was still quite impressive.
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During my time at Brize Norton in the 70's the Royals flew RAF, not BOAC. We would fit out two aircraft in Royal Configuration for tours by Her Majesty and/or The Duke of Edinburgh, one prepared by the Hangar and the other by the Line.

Another error was the transportation of the Duke of Edinburgh's body back to UK (RAF Benson) in the cabin of a stripped out VC10. He was actually repatriated in the forward lower freight compartment of an ordinary RAF VC10. I can recall no occasion on which the cabin trim would be removed for any reason other than maintenance.

Twas the Duchess of Windsor who kept recovering... we prepped I think three jets in total for her, crape and all the fittings went in the front cargo hold, the rest of the aircraft was spruced up, as was the interior, I did one of them, along with quite a few others, one when I should have been clearing from the RAF, still I gave the Padre and Station Commander the delights of a VC10 at full chat during his church service on my final RAF ground run, as I managed to get dispensation to do a low powered run during the ban times for operational requirements...
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Originally Posted by Blacksheep View Post
Another error was the transportation of the Duke of Edinburgh's body back to UK (RAF Benson) in the cabin of a stripped out VC10. He was actually repatriated in the forward lower freight compartment of an ordinary RAF VC10. I can recall no occasion on which the cabin trim would be removed for any reason other than maintenance.
As someone pointed out, you probably mean another Duke's body. This story sounds like the repatriation of JFK's body back to Washington in 1963.

Underwood has talked with someone who was on the airplane and said they all did work together, especially when it was decided to remove a bulkhead and four seats so the president's casket could be carried inside the plane.


https://www.npr.org/2016/06/05/48080...-air-force-one
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Airbubba, the VC-10 had a specific fit for carrying coffins back, the fwd freight bay was lined with black crape and a fit was installed to secure the coffin, I seem to remember it was designed so the person was mounted head to the front.

i think the comments re the VC-10 cabin being stripped would simply refer to some seats being removed as in a freight configuration
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So wonderful to see well researched and executed aviation images for a change.
Obviously CGI in places, where the resolution and minutiae can never replicate the real thing (yet) but still very, very good. Even window reflections are period correct (Princess Margaret at terminal in USA with 707 reflections in the windows etc).
I really donít want to see movies anymore with King Airís making piston sounds!
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So wonderful to see well researched and executed aviation images for a change
Very much agreed! And, although I'm not really up on all of the older English vehicles, it sure appears that a lot of effort has gone into depicting vehicles of the correct era! not only did someone bother to figure out what vehicles should appear, they made it so! Obvious care in production makes me want watch more!
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I can't speak for this TV series but, in reality, 10 Sqn VC 10 aircraft were used to recover the body of the Duke of Windsor in 1972 (Op VAGUE) and then the Duchess in 1986 (Op HAZE). Plans had been in existence since the mid-1960s for the 'conveyance of a very senior officer or his lady if he or she dies overseas', originally using the Britannia, and I participated in more than one Saturday morning rehearsal parade at RAF Benson for this contingency. (A local undertaker's firm who would prepare the body was listed under Friendly Forces in the Oporder. Its personnel would have been conveyed in a separate aircraft from that used for the recovery.) As I recall, the Brit had to stop briefly on the far side of the airfield so that someone could unlock the freight bay from outside; on the VC 10, an ALM would descend into the bay to unlock the door.

I've no idea whether a similar Oporder remained on the books after HAZE was carried out - I'm thinking here of the recovery of the body of Diana, Princess of Wales, in 1997.
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