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He Killed Your Child But Don't Upset Him Too Much

Old 13th Jul 2019, 12:10
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He Killed Your Child But Don't Upset Him Too Much

When you thought etc etc...

Your victim impact statement is too upsetting for the cnut who killed your child.

Yep, the scumbag's barrister made the challenge and won. What is the country coming to?

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Old 13th Jul 2019, 12:34
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Yes, you could not make this stuff up.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 13:52
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And we are paying for this stupidity out of our hard-earned taxes.
I'd like to be able to with-hold the portion of my taxes that pay for the judiciary until the stupid cnuts do what we want them to.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 13:56
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I do feel that a lot of sentences are far too short. In this case, I would have locked him away for a minimum of 25 years, to ensure public safety once he is released.
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When the bruvvers in prison find out about the child killer, he might be in for long haul upset. Poor little dumb ass snowflake.
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Old 13th Jul 2019, 16:44
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Hopefully in jail he will get a copy of the victim statement impacted up his backside. Along with a few other things.
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 02:20
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Nothing that the parents wanted to say could give that defendant even 5% of the life long hurt
those parents will suffer. I really despair about Judges sometimes, I just cannot understand why
they say what they do. I do of course have a couple of my own thoughts but I better not reveal them.

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Old 14th Jul 2019, 03:34
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Is it just a bit possible that the MP has exaggerated, or even misstated, the reason that the Victim Impact Statement was amended? Maybe UK politicians are different from ours, but somehow I doubt it.
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 03:52
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Victim impact statements should be banned period.
Emotional outburst all it is.
what are you going to say that will make one iota difference.
Justice is to be based on fact and evidence.
Not on emotional outbursts.
Iím honestly surprised so many of you respond to this dogwhistle.
This is exactly why a jury system is flawed.

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Old 14th Jul 2019, 06:37
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Justice is to be based on fact and evidence
But judges often have some latitude in sentencing.

Jury system is flawed? So are some judges. There is no perfection in the justice system.
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 10:34
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Victim impact statements should be banned period.
Emotional outburst all it is.
what are you going to say that will make one iota difference.
Justice is to be based on fact and evidence.
Not on emotional outbursts.
Iím honestly surprised so many of you respond to this dogwhistle.
This is exactly why a jury system is flawed.
Victim personal statements have nothing to do with justice.
They aren't read until after the verdict.
They may affect sentencing but only within guidelines.
Of course, that works both ways. Some victims and families are very forgiving and express that in their statements.
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Old 14th Jul 2019, 15:26
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Originally Posted by Tashengurt View Post
They may affect sentencing but only within guidelines.
A VPS may also be taken into account in subsequent Parole Board decisions.

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Old 14th Jul 2019, 23:06
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
A VPS may also be taken into account in subsequent Parole Board decisions.
Oh? Do you mean that there really is a process?
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 13:46
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Victim impact statements should be banned period.
Emotional outburst all it is.
what are you going to say that will make one iota difference.
Justice is to be based on fact and evidence.
Not on emotional outbursts.
Iím honestly surprised so many of you respond to this dogwhistle.
This is exactly why a jury system is flawed.
your right, the judicial system gives not a flying fart. What should be done is give the family an option to pass sentence.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 15:16
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
This is exactly why a jury system is flawed.
Flawed......in what way???? Seems to have served this country well enough over several hundred years.

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Old 19th Jul 2019, 16:58
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Victim impact statements should be banned period.
Emotional outburst all it is.
If someone's 4 year old daughter is killed by a scumbag who ran over her in a stolen car, fled the scene without seeing if there was anything he could do to possibly save her life or even just call for an ambulance then decided to flee the country, I would say that they have every right to voice an emotional outburst against the scrote concerned.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 17:13
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If someone's 4 year old daughter is killed by a scumbag who ran over her in a stolen car, fled the scene without seeing if there was anything he could do to possibly save her life or even just call for an ambulance then decided to flee the country, I would say that they have every right to voice an emotional outburst against the scrote concerned.
But what actual purpose does it serve apart from letting off steam? Or is that enough in itself?
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 17:16
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post


But what actual purpose does it serve apart from letting off steam? Or is that enough in itself?
If it gives the victims any relief at all then it is worthwhile for that reason alone.

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Old 19th Jul 2019, 17:40
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post


But what actual purpose does it serve apart from letting off steam? Or is that enough in itself?
Letting off steam and a slim (probably very slim) chance that it might help the driver concerned see what effect his actions have had on the lives of the other family members.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 18:05
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Letting off steam and a slim (probably very slim) chance that it might help the driver concerned see what effect his actions have had on the lives of the other family members.

Which I think was one of the reasons put forward when impact statements were introduced. It may just prick the conscience of the perpetrator, though i doubt it has any real effect, it may even become a badge of honour.
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