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Old 5th Jul 2019, 15:32
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Apparently the Wright brothers weren't the first...

During his July 4th speech yesterday the US President said: “In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified army out of the revolutionary forces encamped around Boston and New York … The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown. Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.”

Wow. The fact that the British had airports in 1775 must be the world's best kept secret. Until now.


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Old 5th Jul 2019, 15:39
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The bloke is a complete and utter f***wit. Just when you think you've heard him spout the most incredible tosh you've ever heard, he manages to top it with an even more outrageous gaffe.

Still, I suppose we should be thankful that our own pet idiot, with a propensity for putting his foot in it every bit as much, isn't (yet) our PM...
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 15:49
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No wonder the Brits lost - all that air-power at George Washington's command................ Cornwallis never had a hope
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Early-ish stages of dementia. They were apparent at the time of the California forest fires in the Paradise/Pleasure speech.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 17:01
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Well apart from the idiocy part he doesnt even know his own countries history not realising that Fort McHenry and the Star Spangled banner were from the 1812 war not 1776.

Makes you glad the Russians have someone sane as their man with a finger on the button even if he isnt Mr Nice guy-he certainly isnt the imbecile Trump is and Boris -well.....
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Hang on, guys! As Commander in Chief, perhaps he knows something that we don't.... Even though no aeroplane flew until 1903, those far-sighted Brits had anticipated its coming, foreseen the future application of military and commercial aviation and had already nabbed the most suitable Colonial landing sites!

Stands to reason, dunnit?

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Trump is blaming the autocue.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 17:12
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Originally Posted by grizzled View Post
During his July 4th speech yesterday the US President said: “In June of 1775, the Continental Congress created a unified army out of the revolutionary forces encamped around Boston and New York … The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware, and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown. Our army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do, and at Fort McHenry, under the rockets’ red glare, it had nothing but victory.”

Wow. The fact that the British had airports in 1775 must be the world's best kept secret. Until now.
Surely this must be fake news.

Oh, hang on ...

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Old 5th Jul 2019, 17:22
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Trump is blaming the autocue.
Not sure how a defective autocue could include mention of air warfare and airports. Or, come to that, why Trump talked about Fort McHenry, which had sod all to do with the Revolutionary War. I'm a Brit and even I know the difference between the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. I thought all this stuff was pretty much drummed into every American at school, isn't it? Certainly seems to have been the case with the majority of the Americans I've met and worked with over the years; they usually seemed to know far more about their own history than we do.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 17:26
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Trump is blaming the autocue.
He's blaming the autocue but also saying that he knew the speech very well so could carry on!

He will say anything that he thinks makes him look good in the immediate next instant, not caring about what happens a minute later; just like a child which denies it's eaten the chocolate even though, deep down, it knows the evidence will soon be obvious. Anything to get through the next minute, and then the next...
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And don't forget the War of the Pig. Our last spat/stand-off.
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There you go - Pigs might fly!!!
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How many British airports were taken by the US?

President’s claim the revolutionary army ‘took over airports’
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Off topic: Years ago I was hosting a NATO working group meeting, which meant making an after-dinner speech. I was struggling a bit as to what to say, without inadvertently causing offence, when a colleague suggested (perhaps a bit tongue-in-cheek) that I choose the theme of causing offence. I did some digging around and found out that of all the NATO states represented at our meeting, Britain had been at war with all of them at some time, except Canada. The longest war was with France (hundreds of years), one of the shortest was with America. The best bit of our war with America was the War of 1812. It was worth losing the RN fleet, just to burn down the White House.

P.S: The USA forgave me, and later presented me with a Maryland State flag, flown in my honour from the Maryland State House, together with a Calvert penny, a couple of years later when I left the US, having worked at Pax River for a while.
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 18:28
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How many British airports were taken by the US?

Answer: ALL OF THEM
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 18:29
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Eight or so...


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Old 5th Jul 2019, 18:31
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Hmmmm, we did invade Canada. The French and Indian war of 1754-1763....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_(New_France)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War
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I feel for the citizens of the great country that is the USA and am concerned that this issue has again raised the question "Was your Commander in Chief born an a**hole or did he need lessons?"

I am lost for words that such a great country stands by and has their credibility totally destroyed by one man. I've many friends in the US and have stood shoulder to shoulder with the US through many conflicts when many dark forces were against us, surely democracy has a way of saving this great country?
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Old 5th Jul 2019, 18:56
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Hmmmm, we did invade Canada. The French and Indian war of 1754-1763....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_(New_France)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_and_Indian_War
But, Canada as a nation state didn't exist then. At that time what became Canada was a mix of British and French colonies. Canada wasn't created as a nation state (with the Head of State of Britain as the Head of State of Canada) until 1867.
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