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Old 24th Jun 2019, 09:55
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London is safer now....

Sadiq Khan being challenged in the Mayor's Question Time on Thursday 20-June by Gareth Bacon:

Q: "Mr. Khan you have stated in the past that London is safer now than in 2015/16, do you still believe this?"

A: "Yes"

Q: "Even though gun crime is up, knife crime is up, incidents of rape is up, assaults are up, taking vehicles without consent is up, burglary is up, you still honestly believe London is safer now than in 2015/16?"

A: "Yes"

What planet is this man on?

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Old 24th Jun 2019, 12:00
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Planet Delusion..........Khan't has shown himself to be nigh on invisible as Mayor, never showing himself after the many atrocities during his tenure until well after the event. As mentioned most street crime appears to be up and nothing seems to be being done in an obvious way. The only positive things he has done are to do with TfL, which is perhaps not surprising considering he is the son of a bus driver and would look kindly on improvements to public transport. His parlaying with the President of the United States has been both unbecoming of his position (no matter what he personally feels) and detrimental. I sometimes wonder what he DOES with all his working time.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 15:32
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As we all know the knife crime and gun crime stems from these kids coming from dysfunctional backgrounds with no control at home or in the schools. A lot of it is dare i say it b---k on b---k, a lot of this is a power trip belonging to a gang with weapons. With the police cut backs there is not enough police to patrol these areas and make them safe, you cannot always blame the politicians a lot of it starts at home with no discipline. I think the answer is to give them more youth clubs etc, and give the more violent criminals longer sentences.
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Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 View Post
As we all know the knife crime and gun crime stems from these kids coming from dysfunctional backgrounds with no control at home or in the schools. A lot of it is dare i say it b---k on b---k, a lot of this is a power trip belonging to a gang with weapons. With the police cut backs there is not enough police to patrol these areas and make them safe, you cannot always blame the politicians a lot of it starts at home with no discipline. I think the answer is to give them more youth clubs etc, and give the more violent criminals longer sentences.
Hey, now there's a thought !........maybe you should sent this suggestion to the Gov't ?.......who have been happily cutting funding for such venues......which, erm, duly close as a result.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...k-violence-mps

Other links are available......all saying the same thing.
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If he stopped spending so much on PR people and external PR advisers, he could hire a few more police.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 17:58
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....and keep some youth clubs open.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 18:51
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Khan obviously khan't

At best the man is in compleat denial, at worst like so many of his Ilk, in which the snowflakes are in denial he is a Trojan horse
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 21:08
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Of course it is safer - he has security guards now.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 15:05
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Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 View Post
As we all know the knife crime and gun crime stems from these kids coming from dysfunctional backgrounds with no control at home or in the schools. A lot of it is dare i say it b---k on b---k, a lot of this is a power trip belonging to a gang with weapons. With the police cut backs there is not enough police to patrol these areas and make them safe, you cannot always blame the politicians a lot of it starts at home with no discipline. I think the answer is to give them more youth clubs etc, and give the more violent criminals longer sentences.
When I read about or see TV interviews about these "disadvantaged" young people it is invariably the mother who is either relating the story or responding to the question and rarely is a "father" present or even mentioned. Similarly, when "errant youths" are the subject of discussion on "question time-type" TV programmes, I don't recall ever hearing the question "where is/was the father of the child" asked by either the panel or the audience?. Is this question never asked or is it not allowed to be asked?

Just curious.
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Old 25th Jun 2019, 16:00
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This seems to be the case with Question Time & other tv debate shows they never seem to ask the obvious questions!! about this matter. I do think with these gangs going around it's a culture thing & on a power trip!!
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When I read about or see TV interviews about these "disadvantaged" young people it is invariably the mother who is either relating the story or responding to the question and rarely is a "father" present or even mentioned. Similarly, when "errant youths" are the subject of discussion on "question time-type" TV programmes, I don't recall ever hearing the question "where is/was the father of the child" asked by either the panel or the audience?. Is this question never asked or is it not allowed to be asked?
Not allowed to be asked, we wouldn't want to put 'our' finger on the problem. The simple fact is that there are too many 'daddy cools' and not enough cool dads in certain ethnic groups. When you do see them it's unusual and they do a great job playing and bonding with their children. I live in London, and travel around mostly by foot, or on public transport (can't be effed with the hassle of car-ownership in the city). I see over the course of the week a lot of differing areas and it is noticeable that once school ends the groupings of kids that 'appear' the loudest and most unruly are from a specific ethnic group. The majority are boys/young men and as the day turns to night things become more feral and violent. Without any real male-role models these boys group together in a toxic family-group known as the gang. You only have to see the statistics over the last few years to see who's who and what's what. These statistics don't even report the thousands who are lightly injured, rather than killed. I'm not suggesting that there aren't plenty of 'wrong-uns' in other ethnic groups, but somehow the action is from and amongst the same ethnic group in the main. Fewer youth clubs has had an impact, as a pseudo parenting aid, but the real cause is the feckless behaviour of those who breed without thought to the consequences. It's "Lord of the Flies" in the city and unless the proper authorities act with both zeal and conviction, the perpetrators will carry on and it will get worse, especially if the economy takes a wobble. Kids need to know when the line has been crossed and nowadays that means a short sharp shock.
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Apologies for the DM content, but it's getting like this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Dagenham.html more often and that's not a positive trend.
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Old 26th Jun 2019, 18:52
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The man is an abhorrent disgrace, what do you expect from someone who has made money from representing the scum of society, who merely shrugged his shoulders and stated " terrorism is to be expected in modern Western cities" and didn't exactly display any level of anger.
He needs to be sacked, Cressida Dick needs to be sacked and we need some robust hard line policing to enforce the law ( which also needs to change with respect to possession of knives in a public place)

If I wanted to take a remainer-Gruniad- reader-snowflake stance I would say hes racist for not preventing a black on black slow youth London genocide taking place
Believe you me if everyone took this stance the problem would be resolved tomorrow
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Old 26th Jun 2019, 18:55
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Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 View Post
As we all know the knife crime and gun crime stems from these kids coming from dysfunctional backgrounds with no control at home or in the schools. A lot of it is dare i say it b---k on b---k, a lot of this is a power trip belonging to a gang with weapons. With the police cut backs there is not enough police to patrol these areas and make them safe, you cannot always blame the politicians a lot of it starts at home with no discipline. I think the answer is to give them more youth clubs etc, and give the more violent criminals longer sentences.
More likely kids from Rumania and Bulgaria where this type of crime is endemic in their way of life.
And James ('John') Hunt wants to abandon plans to limit net migration, one of the things I and I'm sure many others for when voting yes to Brexit.
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As we all know the knife crime and gun crime stems from these kids coming from dysfunctional backgrounds with no control at home or in the schools. A lot of it is dare i say it b---k on b---k, a lot of this is a power trip belonging to a gang with weapons. With the police cut backs there is not enough police to patrol these areas and make them safe, you cannot always blame the politicians a lot of it starts at home with no discipline. I think the answer is to give them more youth clubs etc, and give the more violent criminals longer sentences
You been watching WGN News? Weekends are good. A couple of those ago 54 people were shot. Chicago's very own.
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 06:35
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I have several friends and acquaintances within SCO19 in London.

If you could talk to them directly, as I have, they might be able to convince you of what 99% of their day job entails. Iím afraid G90 is bang on the money.

Bearing in mind the guy I know best is/was a team leader and is a black Muslim you can hardly doubt his word or call him a racist.

The biggest problem is not talking about the problem.

There was an excellent article the other day on the BBC news website written by a Pakistani journalist who visited his home town in South Yorkshire to investigate crime within his community. He agrees with my statement. Not talking about the problem and not facing it head on is making things worse.

Calling everyone who dares to speak up a racist shuts down debate which is not helpful.

Some of those people may very well be racists, but not all of them.

BV

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Old 27th Jun 2019, 07:07
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
a Pakistani journalist who visited his home town in South Yorkshire
I love that quote, it sums up reality so well.
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Old 27th Jun 2019, 07:45
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My apologies. That should, of course, have said a British journalist of Pakistani origin.

I think the point is still valid though.

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Old 27th Jun 2019, 08:52
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Iím sure knife crime isnít a priority for the mayor and the 700 million cut in funding from central government, hasnít made a jot of difference to policing in the capital. The Met are ignoring black on black and gang crime purely due to political correctness,really?There is some complete ar5e being spoken on this subject. By the way Cressida Dick, is a very decent woman and an extremely good copper.The Met rank and file will tell you this. As an example following the shooting of John Charles De Menezes (she was Gold commander), pretty much the Ďonlyí senior officer who met with and really tried to ensure those directly involved with the shooting were taken care of,was Cress. She was advised by many (to cover her ar5e) not to associate herself with them. She was and remains,non-political, a decent person and a good copper!
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