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Old 10th Jun 2019, 10:48
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Smile BBC Gaffe!!

BBC have just described Jeremy Hunt as the Health Secretary!!
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Idiots.....everybody knows that he's the Secretary of State for Education.
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Originally Posted by GLIDER 90 View Post
BBC have just described Jeremy Hunt as the Health Secretary!!
To be fair, it's not as big a gaffe as they made about him once before............
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The BBC promised the Government that it would make economies, and take over the payment of licence fees for the over 75s, who currently do not have to pay the annual UKP154.50 BBC tax.
Clearly the BBC lied. They have not made any economies. They still pay at least one football presenter about UKP2 Million per year. They still provide free taxis for their "stars" so they do not have to suffer the indignities of public transport.
Average presenters are paid half a million. They are moving some of their shows out of their "public" programming in to their "private" programming, so they don't have to reveal their salaries.

The BBC still has more Directors, Assistant Directors and "Offices of the XYZ Director" than an organisation 10 times its size actually needs.

So the Trots and Pinkoes at the BBC have decided that the over 75s will have to pay their UKP154.50. From the Grauniad..." Research from the House of Commons Library found that 3 million households would lose their free TV licence as a result of the decision."

The Beeb still has lots of local radio and local tv that no-one listens to. The private sector does the job so much better. It keeps on expanding its internet presence. It promised to scale it back - but it has grown it instead. It is the BIG NEWS bully.
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To be fair, it's not as big a gaffe as they made about him once before............
Or indeed some of his own......."remind me again of your nationality darling ? "......

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From the Grauniad....

My pension has not kept pace with inflation so I have to be particularly frugal’

I am a 98-year-old widow and live on my own. Both my children work, so I am on my own all day. I have very poor balance thus cannot walk, and I no longer drive, so the TV is company for me. My hearing is poor so I cannot rely upon the radio. The combination of pictures and sound keep me in touch with what is going on in the world. When I began drawing my pension 33 years ago, I thought I had plenty. Over time my pension has not kept pace with inflation, so I have to be particularly frugal. I would probably have to say no to purchasing a TV licence. Evelyn, 98, Woking
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 17:10
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I can afford a TV licence so am happy to pay.,
BUT
As for value for money, well I don't know? I tend to watch a lot of Sky programs and the BBC news is so 'snowflake' these days that Sky news is better.

So that's my take on it.

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The BBC promised the Government that it would make economies, and take over the payment of licence fees for the over 75s, who currently do not have to pay the annual UKP154.50 BBC tax.
Clearly the BBC lied. They have not made any economies. They still pay at least one football presenter about UKP2 Million per year. They still provide free taxis for their "stars" so they do not have to suffer the indignities of public transport.
Average presenters are paid half a million. They are moving some of their shows out of their "public" programming in to their "private" programming, so they don't have to reveal their salaries.

The BBC still has more Directors, Assistant Directors and "Offices of the XYZ Director" than an organisation 10 times its size actually needs.

So the Trots and Pinkoes at the BBC have decided that the over 75s will have to pay their UKP154.50. From the Grauniad..." Research from the House of Commons Library found that 3 million households would lose their free TV licence as a result of the decision."

The Beeb still has lots of local radio and local tv that no-one listens to. The private sector does the job so much better. It keeps on expanding its internet presence. It promised to scale it back - but it has grown it instead. It is the BIG NEWS bully.
Well that didn't take too long for the inevitable JB condemnation of the BBC to commence.

Unfortunately, you missed the bit about the Gov't removing funding .......there again, this Gov't had been removing funding for just about everybody who needs it across the board under their "austerity " fallacy so the Beeb was always going to be affected.

And the "private sector " can, of course, allegedly, do broadcasting so much better. Of course they can...if they don't provide the extensive range of services the BBC do, and infect every programme with adverts, oh, and of course, you have to pay for their services.......funny that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48583487
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I think the case for abolishing the BBC ‘tax’ is that the mega star DJ Steve Wright is paid in excess of half a million pounds a year for his contribution.

I wouldn’t pay him half a million Vietnamese Dong!

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Old 10th Jun 2019, 18:02
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The BBC received a very large extra contribution in the form of a massively increased BBC tax. From that, and the promised economies, they said they would pay for the over 75s.
No economies. No reductions for the presenters. They just hide their excessive salaries.

Nothing to do with HMG.

All to do with the Trots and Pinkoes being unable to manage their ever-growing world of fantasy economics
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Seems perfectly reasonable to remove free TV licenses for those not in receipt of pension credit to me. The elderly that are still on a low income (like the lady mentioned above) would probably still qualify for a free licence, as I understand it.
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As the BBC has effectively gone private perhaps we need a crowd funded legal challenge against a mandatory fee for channels you don't watch. I get access to Amazon for £79 together with other benefits. Access to Netflix costs less that £72. Many a night we have absolutely nothing on worth viewing.

BBC is looking to join ITV and possibly BT on a subscription service. Will they move some 'free to air ' services from 'licence fee paid ' to subscription?
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 18:28
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At under three quid a week I find the BBC excellent value. I have no idea how much I might be asked to pay for Sky Sports but three Premiership football match tickets would just about soak up my subscription to the BBC.
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Oh, and if youíre not watching or recording live TV, you donít need a licence.

So catch-up TV, streaming or downloading programmes after theyíve been shown or programmes available online before being shown on TV don't count - as long as they're not on iPlayer .

But if you watch or record any live TV - no matter the device - you need one.
So you need a BBC licence to watch a live ITV programme?
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
Seems perfectly reasonable to remove free TV licenses for those not in receipt of pension credit to me. The elderly that are still on a low income (like the lady mentioned above) would probably still qualify for a free licence, as I understand it.
I would agree, and looking at other non-means tested benefit that pensioners get, I'd also make the free bus pass a straight swap for a driving licence, it might serve to take some of the less able elderly drivers off the road a bit sooner, certainly in urban areas, and save the exchequer a tidy sum in subsidies that must be paid to bus companies to ship the elderly around after 09:30.

Going back to the BBC, I really can't blame them for means testing the free TV licence. HM Government has largely starved them of revenue for years, whilst lumping more costs on them, such as the World Service and free TV licences. I can't help thinking that with the proliferation of services such as Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney and their like the model of broadcasting that the licence fee was supposed to support will be going the same way as land line phones, cash and the high street in the next 20 or so years.
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 19:13
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The BBC need to up their game if they want to keep viewers on their side, the amount of rubbish that's on now even radio 2 has lost the plot. Not as good as it was in the 70's & 80's.
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Old 10th Jun 2019, 19:48
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
So you need a BBC licence to watch a live ITV programme?
The licence is to allow you to operate a 'Television Receiver' so you would need one whether or not the BBC transmitted anything at all.
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Originally Posted by kkbuk View Post
The licence is to allow you to operate a 'Television Receiver' so you would need one whether or not the BBC transmitted anything at all.
What you are saying is that the TV licence is a government tax - so why does the BBC's withdrawal of free licences for over 75s have any relevance?
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