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Old 29th May 2019, 17:00
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See my post above yours.
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Old 29th May 2019, 17:02
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See my final comment in Post #152.
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Old 29th May 2019, 17:11
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
I see it as being rather 'polite' if you are taking up residence in another country for long enough that you would be willing enough to integrate into that society and take out citizenship of that country. But then, I suppose that there are those that are just in it for themselves and don't really want to 'belong' to their new home. Each to their own. Not a 'problem' or a 'requirement' but just showing how much you really appreciate your new home. (I can partly understand it for some of those countries that will not allow dual citizenship as I can see that relinquishing British citizenship could be considered a significant enough loss to make 'home' citizenship less appealing.)
You mean like British troops in Afghanistan ?
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Old 29th May 2019, 17:13
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post


You are confusing the political and the geographical. The British Isles, as shown above, is purely geographical.
Not when used by idiots to claim posession as it was earlier.
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Old 29th May 2019, 17:45
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
And in the traditions of Jet Blast, why should it stay 'on topic'? Even then, that topic does have a huge range of valid 'branches' such as US or other citizenship, the geographical name of the area, the Downing Street cat, etc., etc., or even the misuse of 'pseudo ellipses' by some contributors!!
True, JB has a time honoured tradition for going off topic............

However, every so often a heading correction is required to return on track...........

Hence the direct question, again, as to whether you are pro Boris, and if so, why ?.....or.....are you against Boris, and if so, why did you include the comment about bigots in your post ?.............

Lots of dots.....all you have to do is join them up.

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Old 29th May 2019, 17:57
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Not when used by idiots to claim posession as it was earlier.
Being an idiot does not change either political or geographic reality.

The history of Ireland from 1169–1536 covers the period from the arrival of the Cambro-Normans to the reign of Henry VIII of England, who made himself King of Ireland. After the Norman invasions of 1169 and 1171, Ireland was under an alternating level of control from Norman lords and the King of England.
British rule continued into the 20th C.
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Old 29th May 2019, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Being an idiot does not change either political or geographic reality.



British rule continued into the 20th C.
Doesn't make it British, people in ireland have been seeking Independence for centuries, hardly something that would happen if they were British.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:14
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Doesn't make it British, people in ireland have been seeking Independence for centuries, hardly something that would happen if they were British.
You will recall that the English Navy fought the Battle of Trafalgar. People of Scottish or English descent consider different inbtge same way as the Irish or the Welsh. It would seem that overall embracing identity of British was at least codified in 1914 which would make any of us British but much more recently when asked nationality many say English with manufactures being Made in England. The Scots still say Made in Scotland.

Before the wars of independence, those natives of Ireland were British.
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Old 29th May 2019, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
You will recall that the English Navy fought the Battle of Trafalgar. People of Scottish or English descent consider different inbtge same way as the Irish or the Welsh. It would seem that overall embracing identity of British was at least codified in 1914 which would make any of us British but much more recently when asked nationality many say English with manufactures being Made in England. The Scots still say Made in Scotland.

Before the wars of independence, those natives of Ireland were British.
The people who fought in the wars of independence considerered themselves Irish, Bit like claiming those who fought in US War of Independence were all British. If you want to please do but it means you are Norman not British as they conquered Britain.
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Anyone out there old enough to remember what happened to Titus Oates?

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Old 30th May 2019, 05:15
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https://www.conservativehome.com/the...hat-order.html

Next Tory Leader run-offs. Our panel’s support hasn’t changed. They want Johnson – followed by Raab, Gove, Javid and Hunt in that order.
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Old 30th May 2019, 05:17
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https://www.conservativehome.com/the...p-contest.html

Our survey. Members overwhelmingly back a short leadership contest.



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Old 30th May 2019, 05:45
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Boris defined ......

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Old 30th May 2019, 07:33
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
The people who fought in the wars of independence considerered themselves Irish, Bit like claiming those who fought in US War of Independence were all British. If you want to please do but it means you are Norman not British as they conquered Britain.
You clearly missed the point. No one was BRITISH until much later. In 1914 they were declared British. Look up Old English.
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Old 30th May 2019, 09:21
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Our survey. Members overwhelmingly back a short leadership contest.
Funny that; this Conservative Party member has not been asked his opinion, nor has anyone else, in the Party, whom he knows.

It's called highly selective sampling to get the answer you want.

The same process led to the claim that Boris Johnson is the Conservative grassroots' favourite. No he isn't; most of them despise him.

Let's hope he gets some jail time for the lies he - and his cronies - peddled before the referendum. But it's a very faint hope; he's more likely to get a slap on the wrist.
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Funny that; this Conservative Party member has not been asked his opinion, nor has anyone else, in the Party, whom he knows.
You need to be on the Clapham omnibus old fruit . . .
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Old 30th May 2019, 09:49
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
You clearly missed the point. No one was BRITISH until much later. In 1914 they were declared British. Look up Old English.
Declaring something British doesn't make it so. Does it ?
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:04
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I think Boris has been Nobbled, the dirty tricks party are at it again.
One thing to come out of the last 2 years is the fact that there is no such thing as an honest or decent human being in the UK's main political parties.
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:05
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Originally Posted by old,not bold View Post
Funny that; this Conservative Party member has not been asked his opinion, nor has anyone else, in the Party, whom he knows.

It's called highly selective sampling to get the answer you want.

The same process led to the claim that Boris Johnson is the Conservative grassroots' favourite. No he isn't; most of them despise him.

Let's hope he gets some jail time for the lies he - and his cronies - peddled before the referendum. But it's a very faint hope; he's more likely to get a slap on the wrist.
I have always seen BJ as an opportunist, a bit cleverer than Call Me Dave which is why he made his money and CMD went into politics.

BJ will ride any horse (well anything if truth be told) that boosts his popularity and has an opinion of himself that he is the next Churchill. If Hitler had done nothing in 1939 one Winston Spencer Churchill would have gone down as a failure whose actions killed thousands in needless slaughter. BJ is looking for his Churchill moment. He is completely ammoral.

BJ wants to appear as the saver of the UK on his trusty White Horse but he is out of time and hasn't got the ability and in reality by taking his Brexit stance in 2016 he has basically called time on UK as a complete entity.

Northern Ireland is already gone, it is just a question now of time.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-37202289.html



https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/o...-36821215.html

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-38149393.html
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:25
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It grieves me to agree with you racedo, but I have to do so.

I only have to add that the rot really started with Dave. Boris and others joined in when they could see opportunities for personal advancement
The history books will record that the breakup of the United Kingdom started in 2016.
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