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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 04:49
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Originally Posted by Solar View Post
As I believe Billy Connolly once said if anybody expresses an interest in being a politician they should automatically be banned from political life. Maybe he had a point.
That might pre-date Billy C..it might have been one of Wilde's.. ,or it might have been one of the Waugh's..they certainly had similar thoughts on the subject, e.g.

. “Anyone in England who puts himself forward to be elected to a position of political power is almost bound to be socially or emotionally insecure, or criminally motivated, or mad.”
― Auberon Waugh
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 05:47
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As we know Boris is fond of ornate structures, and the odd bit of Latin, plus a bit of Roman history ....so it's only a matter of time ( the plans have probably already been drawn up and the cost taken from depleting the social security budget and approved by Amber in her quest for glory ) before the gates to Downing St get removed for scrap and are replaced with ?.......see link.

And on Wednesday, we can look forward to the s£$t eating grins as the procession of Boris's chosen ( bribed ) supporters enter No10 to get their new appointments and emerge to gush forth the usual crap about how excited they are, how they intend to do so much ( see thread dedicated to these well known sentiments ) and how Boris will transcend the EU sweeping all opposition aside.......etc, etc ( Mail / Excess "exclusive !! " on the same lines to duly follow. ) Personally, if ever an event is worthy of a day of national mourning, there will be two which should be accorded this status..............one is when Boris gets the job and moves in.......the other s when we leave the EU.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/triumphal-arch

Us Guardian reeders is not usually given to using crass and vulgar terms but, in this case, one feels an exception is warranted.....so congratulations to the Tory party for producing a seamless triumvirate of ( rhymes with hats ) to lead the nation. Also contains a photo of Dave.....sorry about that......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49066884

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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 07:35
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Thanks Wiggy, spose it goes to show that politicians havenít really changed.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 07:44
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Back in 1983, I was a member of the SDP and worked hard on the election campaign, supporting a candidate that I genuinely believed was committed to representing local people. I was with him when the result was announced (he lost, by a modest margin) and his very first action was to talk to his agent about looking around for the next likely seat that might come up in a by election. All interest in our constituency, or any of us that had worked tirelessly to support him had gone. He just disappeared, to try and pursue his political ambitions elsewhere. I don't think anyone has ever suckered me to the degree that bloke did, but he did teach me a useful lesson about politicians.

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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 07:59
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Originally Posted by Jack D View Post
Time for everybody to stop ! BJ will become PM
Brexit will occur on 31st Oct ... after that who knows?
Certainly none of the armchair politicians on this forum
Agree wholeheartedly with points 1 and 3. The jury is still out on point 2.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 08:48
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
Back in 1983, I was a member of the SDP and worked hard on the election campaign, supporting a candidate that I genuinely believed was committed to representing local people. I was with him when the result was announced (he lost, by a modest margin) and his very first action was to talk to his agent about looking around for the next likely seat that might come up in a by election. All interest in our constituency, or any of us that had worked tirelessly to support him had gone. He just disappeared, to try and pursue his political ambitions elsewhere. I don't think anyone has ever suckered me to the degree that bloke did, but he did teach me a useful lesson about politicians.
The only time I ever voted Labour was in a council election where a local Councillor was up for reelection. I knew him personally because he had worked hard on a problem I was involved with, and others were very grateful for the way he had helped them. I and my neighbours voted for the man, not the party, and he cheerfully accepted that we would be voting tory in the GE. He must be an exception to the political rule.
I haven't had any contact with him since moving away, but I often wonder how he feels about his party now.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 09:07
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Excellent article, well worth the read in full.

POLITICO:

Todayís essential reading: There are Boris Johnson profiles popping up all over the place at the moment, but none of them quite like this 7,000-word magnum opus which went online this morning in the Atlantic, via POLITICO alum Tom McTague. He tries to get deep inside the head of this most unknowable of politicians, speaking to a litany of past friends, colleagues and acquaintances to assess Johnsonís love of Greek texts, the impact of childhood trauma and his notoriously unstable private life. Worth your time.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 12:21
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As Tory MP's and Ministers go, he's actually one of the better ones overall....despite a snout in the trough episode with Dave ....so despite the no doubt glowing testimonials in ORAC's link. it's far more telling of what to expect when people like him, and the others mentioned, decide to leave prior to the Boris offering his heartfelt bumbling gratitude from the lectern .....and picking up the phone to get his orders from his handler in Penn. Ave.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rival-at-no-10
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 12:31
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KnC, when I said it was worth reading, it is. No glowing recommendations and no hagiography.

Read it, I think you’ll appreciate it.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 12:45
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All will be well after tomorrow . We will be great nation again rich prosperous and with the world at our feet. Oh well thats what most of the papers will say about man who is not fit to be a councillor in little Puddleton much less PM
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 12:52
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Oh and justas areminder Boris hasnt ben democratically elected, the party he leads does not have a majority and he is the second PM appointed by less than a third of one percent of the population-thats Democracy for you . But then again we are a parliamentary democracy and thats different or should be with parliament being supreme.

And we are a constitutional monarchy when we dont have a Constitution and a head of state who, god bless the old dear, is so old she hasnt a clue what happening to her realm - if she did she could do something about it so long as she has parliament on side for she answers to them not the PM
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 15:27
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Labour’s problems go way beyond their toxic racism. Brexit party’s strong support despite having no policies beyond the party name is testament to Corbyn’s dismal failure of leadership.
I find it funny when Tories are proclaiming Racism in Labour.

Tory party refused to support Tory Candidate John Taylor in Cheltenham in 1992 because he was "black". The racists in the Tory party have not gone away but love the idea of claiming Labour is racist until they challenged.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 15:32
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
You're far from being alone. In my view we are now at the point that, should a GE be called (which I suspect is fairly likely) then an awful lot of people are going to have to decide how to vote, not on the basis of who would be best to lead the country, but who would do the least damage if leading the country. There are no good options at all.
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A lot of people will decide not to vote or spoil their vote. I think a GE will produce a realignment that is unexpected.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 15:41
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
All will be well after tomorrow . We will be great nation again rich prosperous and with the world at our feet. Oh well thats what most of the papers will say about man who is not fit to be a councillor in little Puddleton much less PM
It will be a short reign as his history will come back to bite him. Establishment will see him off.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 15:49
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He won't be in number ten for very long at all.

The numbnuts in the Tory parliament will ensure that a certain idiot with a grey beard moves in very soon.

I have already taken steps to secure my financial assets and nobody can get hold of them.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 15:57
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
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Tory party refused to support Tory Candidate John Taylor in Cheltenham in 1992 because he was "black". ...
A lot of those currently on the electoral roll weren't even born then! You are living in the past a bit!
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 16:06
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A lot of those currently on the electoral roll weren't even born then! You are living in the past a bit!
Those primarily running the Tory party at Constituency level were born then and not a lot has changed since. But to coin a phrase of a blue rinse member "We have to be seen as accepting them now, otherwise we get called racist. So we just smile sweetly and hope darling daughter doesn't bring home one of those people"

"Tory party is every bit as racist and anti semitic as Labour, in many cases more so" this statement was from Matthew Parris ex Tory MP.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 16:22
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But to coin a phrase of a blue rinse member
Does that mean make it up?

I would be grateful for a link to where Matthew is reported to have said such a thing, as I am unable to locate anything resembling it - though he has suggested anyone who voted for Brexit is a racist, the subject unduly exercising him.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 17:08
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KnC, when I said it was worth reading, it is. No glowing recommendations and no hagiography.

Read it, I think you’ll appreciate it.
Fair comment ORAC.........so I did.

It was interesting to read the emphasis placed on his early years and the effect the events had on him. Equally, nobody has ever suggested he's stupid....far from it as we know.

But what stands out, apart from his narcissism and almost politically masochistic need to "self harm ", is how he's managed to endear himself to many, despite the glaring failings and seeming indifference to them. Reading that article suggests it won't be long before his urge to be "needed "overcomes any political acumen with the UK suffering as a result. The warning signs in that piece are all too evident for the future.

" The numbnuts in the Tory parliament will ensure that a certain idiot with a grey beard moves in very soon.

I have already taken steps to secure my financial assets and nobody can get hold of them
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Well done for the content of your first line albeit hardly original........the second however, well lets just say your paranoia seems to be overly prevalent in a certain demographic.
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Old 22nd Jul 2019, 17:13
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It isn't paranoia, it's just common sense.

The grey beard will rob everybody - wait and see.
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