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Old 24th Jun 2019, 08:57
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It's a funny old world! In this forum we have people defending the actions of Mark Field, saying how he was right to take preemptive action on the grounds that he didn't know what was in the head of the Greenpeace woman and may have prevented a potential crime taking place.
On the other hand, we have broadly the same people telling us how the Johnson neighbours were wrong to "interfere", despite the fact that he may called the police to prevent a potential crime taking place. And Priti Patel's vigorous savaging of the neighbours was a bit pathetic, repreatedly claiming the police had confirmed that all was well and no criminal matters had arisen. What if the neighbour had not called the police when he did and the police later arrived to find someone had come to some grief? I presume the arrival of the police may well have de-escalated the whole thing. Who can guess at where it may have ended if the police had not been called?
So, two different preemptive actions, both probably well intended, but tow different reactions to them?
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 09:19
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I don’t think anyone is objecting to the fact they called the police, though their motives are suspect. The objections are their having recorded a conversation through the wall and then having sold or supplied it to the Guardian, who printed it.

The first part part of which is possibly an illegal invasion of privacy, the second by the Guardian being an act of total hypocrisy by a newspaper which is an outspoken supporter of the Levinson Report.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 09:31
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
Even the US backstop to prevent a rogue Brit PM launching nukes is gone now that Trump , an even more unsuitable individual is in power.
There is no backstop, that is what Independent means.

​​​​​As for your other comment, has Trump threatened to use a nuke?
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 09:53
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
the man is a complete idiot - I always find it interesting that NO-ONE who has had him as an employee will say a word in his favor..... he is a serial liar and has been since he made up quotes in his first job and was run off...................
That is the think that is most telling, no ex colleagues willing to say anything good.

I think he will involve UK in a war very quickly as his mouth will stay something he cannot back up. No doubt aided by Gav and the rest of the moronic squad.

Boris thinks he is a latter day Churchill, he is, but it is not Winston, it is the nodding dog from the TV adverts.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 10:00
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
It's a funny old world! In this forum we have people defending the actions of Mark Field, saying how he was right to take preemptive action on the grounds that he didn't know what was in the head of the Greenpeace woman and may have prevented a potential crime taking place.
On the other hand, we have broadly the same people telling us how the Johnson neighbours were wrong to "interfere", despite the fact that he may called the police to prevent a potential crime taking place.?
I am happy to defend Mark Field because he acted rather than sitting dumb, if greenpeace protestor has been male and muslim would same people complaining of MP Violence be mouthing off ?

I am also happy that Boris' neighbours reported a domestic indicent that involved screaming and threats. What the neighbours did afterwards was classless but have zero issue with their reporting of it.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 10:16
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
I don’t think anyone is objecting to the fact they called the police, though their motives are suspect. The objections are their having recorded a conversation through the wall and then having sold or supplied it to the Guardian, who printed it.

The first part part of which is possibly an illegal invasion of privacy, the second by the Guardian being an act of total hypocrisy by a newspaper which is an outspoken supporter of the Levinson Report.
Is it an invasion of privacy to record something you hear in your own flat? It's not as if they drilled through the wall.

If I don't want my neighbours to hear me, I don't project my voice into their property.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 11:58
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Oh dear..remember all those posts on here about the left wing, the Guardian's reprehensible stance, of no concern to anybody etc, etc, etc ??

So clearly this individual is a covert left wing Guardian reader !...

For those who feel Boris is being hard done by, when a significant Tory donor starts to make comments..........

Be nice though if Boris has been the own architect , well not unexpectedly as we know, of his own demise......the UK owes him a debt of gratitude really. All we need now is a remote island to banish him to....suggestions welcome !

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...to-explain-row
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 12:30
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Despite the BBC's efforts all this will be forgotten in late July when the vote takes place.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 14:07
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
If I don't want my neighbours to hear me, .
Staying on best behaviour here
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 14:09
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
Despite the BBC's efforts all this will be forgotten in late July when the vote takes place.
Not so sure as there is a huge pattern of behaviour in his history and many will wait until opportune moment to publicise it.

"Hell, hath no fury than a woman scorned" is the term that comes to mind.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 15:01
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Lunched with one of the anointing ones today. He thinks Hunt is creepy.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 15:14
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Originally Posted by racedo
"Hell, hath no fury than a woman scorned" is the term that comes to mind.
Okay, so that explains remoaner gertie and the chip one, but wtf is this to do with our next PM?
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:12
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Okay, so that explains remoaner gertie and the chip one, but wtf is this to do with our next PM?
Alas, if you will excuse me for saying this, but, I would suggest you don't apply to "Mastermind " as a contestant.

One has confirmed many times that one, is, erm, male....(true, I have cross-dressed.... sort of,....... twice, alcohol and GSA clubs may have been involved here but one has never felt compelled to repeat these esoteric interludes ) and I'm sure Gertie can speak for himself....about gender, not cross-dressing that is..

Sadly, to compound your lamentable grasp of reality, Boris and any member of the female sex who may be conveniently at hand so to speak, does have a distinct relevance if he should, which on present form is actually, and hopefully, looking unlikely, become PM.

Boris may have disillusioned several ladies, including the present one.....this should give you a further clue about "a woman scorned ".
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:15
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Bants, innit
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:19
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Is it an invasion of privacy to record something you hear in your own flat? It's not as if they drilled through the wall.

If I don't want my neighbours to hear me, I don't project my voice into their property.
We have a joke going at home now: "Don't talk too loudly, the neighbours might be recording it to sell to the Guardian!"


One problem with all the potential Prime Ministers, Johnson, Hunt or Corbyn, is that they are Londoners.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:33
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He's not the Messiah. He's just a very Snorty boy.

I have been examining my recordings over the years, looking for something to sell to the Grauniad. Other than the few Marx and Milliband (pere) quotes that I can remember, there is nothing to sell.
Shame, really.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 16:34
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
Is it an invasion of privacy to record something you hear in your own flat? It's not as if they drilled through the wall.

If I don't want my neighbours to hear me, I don't project my voice into their property.
Would seem a murky area to get involved in according to this website.

https://www.onlinespyshop.co.uk/blog...sy-neighbours/
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 17:05
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Would seem a murky area to get involved in according to this website.

https://www.onlinespyshop.co.uk/blog...sy-neighbours/
I'd rather have a qualified legal opinion than one expressed by an 'online spy shop'

If neighbours are screaming so loud that I can hear what they are shouting inside my house, I reckon that's an invasion of my privacy, not theirs.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 17:36
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
I'd rather have a qualified legal opinion than one expressed by an 'online spy shop'

If neighbours are screaming so loud that I can hear what they are shouting inside my house, I reckon that's an invasion of my privacy, not theirs.
True, but you should SHOUT LOUDLY this conversation may be recorded for training purposes. 😀

Of course you cannot then sell them on.

If, for instance, you have a CCTV camera you should not record people not on your property and should publish contact details of the CCTV operator.
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Old 24th Jun 2019, 17:46
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
If, for instance, you have a CCTV camera you should not record people not on your property and should publish contact details of the CCTV operator.
I have several, including two that record people passing by in the street. That is quite legal - check with the ICO if you don't believe me.
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