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Old 19th Jun 2019, 06:53
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
It was nice of Boris to remind us as to why he was booted out from being the Foreign Sec........
He wasn't "booted out". He resigned. There's a fundamental difference.......
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:12
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
He wasn't "booted out". He resigned. There's a fundamental difference.......
Fake news. He made exactly the same claim on the 14th and was similarly corrected.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:15
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
He wasn't "booted out". He resigned. There's a fundamental difference.......
Unfortunately, you forgot to include " " with regard to resigned. In Boris's case he "resigned "............. which is the same as being booted out.....because if he had even been remotely capable, Treeza, being desperate as she was, would have kept him in the post.

People resign over principles........Boris doesn't have any.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cretary-brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...sons-departure

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:19
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Well, saw the debate tonight and for my money Stewart blew it. He looked a mess, took his tie off and leant on his stool. Admittedly someone at the Beeb deliberately chose seats that were neither chair nor stool and looked uncomfortable.

Johnson did OK until he spoke. Then got trapped in the Iran and letter box questions. Gove seemed to do much talking with Hunt sitting back, saying little and only occasionally talking. I think Hunt probably won this one.
Also watched, the format was poor, Maitlis lightweight, and the programme too short to give any of them a chance to clearly make their pitch, and probe their opponents in any way that was comprehensible to the audience.

The fact the Rory Stewart lost his tie is neither here nor there for me, don't know whether he took it off in infuriation of the format, he had the worst seat on the set, and became disengaged 3/4 of the way through. That said the rest were just coming up with stuff that is either a) impractical, or b) unrealistic.

What I find so annoying is that from listening the the voxpops this morning what is clear is that priority No.1 for the electorate is "keep Corbyn out", with "what's best for the country" coming a distant 2nd. Of all of them, were I privileged enough to have a vote, I would got for Jeremy Hunt. I suppose I shouldn't be in the least surprised that the priorities are as they are, but is that the way to elect our new Prime Minister?? No, frankly it's little better than the annual Chinese Communist Party meeting taking decisions on behalf of the Chinese people.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:24
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Surely 'keep Corbyn out' and 'what's best for the country' are synonymous.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:50
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Surely 'keep Corbyn out' and 'what's best for the country' are synonymous.
Perhaps; I certainly want to see Corbyn as far away from No.10 as possible, but the most pressing issue at the moment is sorting out Brexit, and the two matters may require different leaders - who's best for the country Brexit-wise may not be who's best placed to keep Corbyn out.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:57
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Perhaps; I certainly want to see Corbyn as far away from No.10 as possible, but the most pressing issue at the moment is sorting out Brexit, and the two matters may require different leaders - who's best for the country Brexit-wise may not be who's best placed to keep Corbyn out.
Well said!
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 07:58
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Unfortunately, you forgot to include " " with regard to resigned. In Boris's case he "resigned "............. which is the same as being booted out.....because if he had even been remotely capable, Treeza, being desperate as she was, would have kept him in the post.

People resign over principles........Boris doesn't have any.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cretary-brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...sons-departure
The fact of the matter is that he resigned as Foreign Secretary.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:30
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...as for Stewart's tie. maybe he was looking for a suitable girder to drape it over and hang himself with it...
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:31
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The fact of the matter is that he resigned as Foreign Secretary.
Of course he did...so lets not concern ourselves with the trivia of the causal factors less the piety be diluted
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:42
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Of course he did...so lets not concern ourselves with the trivia of the causal factors less the piety be diluted
I note that you now accept he resigned and that your assertion that he was sacked was not, in fact, true.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:50
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I am a BBC viewer and licence fee payer and don't give a flying fcuk who the leader of Conservative Party is.

Al I know is that in the past, this sort of process previously was done in private (Or at least within the confines of Parliament) without press-ganging of the BBC viewership, and without consuming the air time and licence payers funds of the BBC.

The party spin meisters and co-opted Oxbridge media twats have just converted the BBC into Tory Party TV for the evening. I wonder how that squares with the BBC constitution and Charter ?

The current "Current Affairs" presentation is being well and truly hijacked and distorted making these organised media events in the UK feel as if the TP is the only show in town, as far as the plebes are concerned - a sort of public school version of some Communist state, taken from a dusty old BBC "Week Ending" episode - "And here is the next candidate, Michel Kalishnekov, baby kisser, mass murderer, offshore money launderer, serial adulterer, mental defective and candidate for the N.E. Moscow constituency" . . etc etc

My message to the Tory "Hopefuls" and their individually tweeked messages of duplicity and lies, is s*d off back to the appropriate forum - starting with a soap box at Speakers Corner, and work-up.

As if we hadn't already had enough of this inflicted monotheism 30 years before with the end of Thatcher's reign - when Poor old Nicholas Witchel would, 5 days out of 7, be standing outside some official building with a microphone and get asked by the studio anchorman "What's the temperature of the Conservative party, Nick ?" Apart from the uniform response of "Who the fcuk cares ?", this statement always used to conjure-up with me an image of a big-forearmed agency nurse, possibly Celtic, anxious to administer a huge great rectal thermometer to each and every member of the Tory Party. One can only hope.

The only difference today, is that most of us wish Nurse Dugdale would substitute a stick of dynamite.

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 08:53
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It was generally accepted that in any other circumstance his unsuitability was such that a sacking was inevitable. What I found disappointing last night was how Maitlis, who I rated quite highly until then, allowed Bozza to get away with everything. If asked a question he just carried on talking about something else, knowing that if he rambled on enough time would prevent him having to give an answer. Maybe Nicholas Parsons should have chaired the debate.

But to me the main fault was how all but Stewart were permitted to explain that Brexit would go ahead with the Irish border issue solved effortlessly and parliament quite happily permitting a No Deal exit. We are back with the unicorns.
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:48
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From l to r --

Lame presenter
Bouffant (as well as buffoon) haired mumbler
Wild eyed promise reneger
Jellied eel back stabber
Shaven topped lightweight
Geeky, awkward, scruffy, mouthy wannabee

I'm probably in the fifth category

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 10:08
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"an hour of my life that I won't get back"

I only watched the last 10 minutes, and that was bad enough!
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 10:33
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Originally Posted by jindabyne View Post
From l to r --

Lame presenter
Bouffant (as well as buffoon) haired mumbler
Wild eyed promise reneger
Jellied eel back stabber
Shaven topped lightweight
Geeky, awkward, scruffy, mouthy wannabee

I'm probably in the fifth category
what, baldy?
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Old 19th Jun 2019, 10:47
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After 10 minutes, I bet most viewers were completely "Ipcressed" - self-harming the palms of their hands with a bent nail and muttering "My name is Harry Palmer".

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Old 19th Jun 2019, 17:24
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HAs no one stopped to consider the completely undemocratic process here. MPs representing a party with no majority in parliament-who have suffered devastating losses of support in two recent elections where they only got 20 odd percent of the vote will choose our next Pm from a list of people none of whom is capable of doing the jobsat ahnd ona n issue where most of the country are opposed to on the basis of a rigged vote three years ago since when the value of the pound has gone down, we have no promised trade agreements , we have got through 4 secretaries of state in charge of it two prime ministers and become an object of derision in the world . We have put at risk our industry and health service and yet it is ok for the architects of this utter shambles to choose new PM while insisting that while they can cnange their mind as many times as they like the population cannot.

Allt he candidates are looking only to protect their own party-the guilty party and retain Londons position as the money laundering tax evasion capital of the world while wrecking the rest of the economy . A virtual coup d'etat for the rich
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Welcome to the real world!
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About the remaining four.......

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