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Old 28th Aug 2019, 15:43
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Good, past 100,000 they then have to take time to debate it, meaning even less time to try to stop us leaving the EU....

I would only take any notice of that BTW when it surpasses those that voted leave..
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 15:58
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Low and slow

Lets be honest here. If someone started a petition to bring Great British Bake Off back to the BBC it’d probably generate more signatures in less time.

Those petitions are often meaningless. It will change nothing.

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Old 28th Aug 2019, 16:26
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Do you all know that on 12.9.1932 Hermann Göring did a similar stunt in the Reichstag of the Weimarer Republik...

The UK is on a course to destroy itself...
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 16:28
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I think the UK is on a course to save itself rather than destroy itself!
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 16:37
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So the remoaner MP's are saying it is an affront on democracy. What is actually an affront to democracy are those MP's who campaigned to stay in, lost the vote and then never accepted the decision of the people. They have all got what they diverse for ignoring the will of the people.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 17:06
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The new prorogation is actually shorter than Atlee's by roughly a week depending on which start date is chosen:History of prorogation
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 17:11
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Good, past 100,000 they then have to take time to debate it, meaning even less time to try to stop us leaving the EU....
I would only take any notice of that BTW when it surpasses those that voted leave..
No they don't.
All that reaching 100,000 signatures means is that it has to be considered for a parliamentary debate and not there has to be a debate..
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 17:23
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Originally Posted by Ivor Fynn View Post
I think the UK is on a course to save itself rather than destroy itself!
As it is not very apparent what the UK is headed to save itself from, it would be most interesting to have some not-too-subjective elements supporting this opinion : any insight as to "what happens next" etc. ?
Because obviously, something must happen next ?
I mean, no "fishermen will be better off", "we'll regain control" vague BS. Any reliable studies or info ?
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 18:36
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Bob Viking; I completely agree with you. It's interesting to look at where the signatories come from.

Total - 707,195
UK - 673,544
Andorra - 3
Zimbabwe -2
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 18:50
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It's interesting to look at where the signatories come from.
Oh, that is interesting, you can actually pull the JSON files for petitions, could be useful for a future project, many thanks LowNSlow!
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 18:54
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flash8, glad to be of service!

Here's an interesting petition about wasted energy
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:01
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Originally Posted by LowNSlow View Post
Bob Viking; I completely agree with you. It's interesting to look at where the signatories come from.

Total - 707,195
UK - 673,544
Andorra - 3
Zimbabwe -2
..I wonder if the three in Andorra ( just down the road from me) are colleagues of mine...could well be.

Anyhow I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make, or why flash is getting excited

Brits abroad have the right to vote in UK elections (up to the 15 year point), many still contribute to the UK economy and therefore have a legitimate interest in how, for example, any income tax paid in the UK and NI is spent... ( that old fashioned thing about taxation and representation). I'd personally expect to see votes from foreign locations in that poll ....though I'm sure some will have plans to do something about that..

However I do agree with BV and yourself - the poll won't change anything.

(FWIW to save you investigating - my vote is one of the roughly 7000 in the "French" count..)

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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:02
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So Jeremy wants a cuppa with the Queen
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:05
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So Jeremy wants a cuppa with the Queen
Meh. Too late.

Maybe if he and his cohort weren't so friggin' useless it wouldn't be quite such a pantomime

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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:38
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The timing of May's departure was critical, though on her part, I expect, unintentional. Too early and Boris could be hamstrung by remoaners getting motions past parliament to stave of a no deal Brexit, too late and he would not have had the time to put into action the preparations which might just tip the scales with the EU. It will still be a tight run thing with three days to debate next week and another possible ten odd between the resumption and October 31st. (That might be only five or six after the Queen's speech debate.

If he can get past next week he might have it. A vote of no confidence in the last weeks of October will give him the possibility of dissolving parliament and completing Brexit, or at any rate completing before the 14 days grace are up.

I am somewhat perplexed that Bercow has not been impeached, (can he be?) as he has been so partisan in the Brexit process and publicly so.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 19:52
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Because the 48% that lost the election can't accept it. The 52% were Ill informed, racist or plainly just not of their calibre. The gobby windbag has made it clear he is on the remainers side so they have shelved their principles.
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Mr Optimistic View Post
Because the 48% that lost the election can't accept it. The 52% were

1 Ill informed,
2 racist or
3 plainly just not of their calibre.

The gobby windbag has made it clear he is on the remainers side so they have shelved their principles.
It was a Referendum.

does that make you one of the 3?
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 20:12
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I voted remain. Next ?
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
Lets be honest here. If someone started a petition to bring Great British Bake Off back to the BBC it’d probably generate more signatures in less time.

Those petitions are often meaningless. It will change nothing.

BV
That could equally apply to a referendum

information only
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 20:19
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I voted remain. Next ?
ill informed then

Next?
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