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Old 28th Jul 2021, 08:53
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Originally Posted by Avionker View Post
Maybe it proves that the EU needs the UK more than the other way around?

Or that the UK holds all the cards?

More likely it proves that, despite a certain individuals “cut and paste” campaign to convince us otherwise, the EU actually want to make the NI protocol work, possibly more than the UK Government does.
Well scenario 1 is likely rubbish, scenario 2 absolute nonsense, which leaves scenario 3, which I believe is likely, and following pressure from Dublin.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 09:05
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It sometimes seems that the EU is more helpful to the UK's interests than our own government. But how much more rope can they allow?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:57
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
It sometimes seems that the EU is more helpful to the UK's interests than our own government. But how much more rope can they allow?
Since the EU is a world leader in that yet to be Olympic sport, can-kicking, I would suggest the situation with the Northern Ireland Protocol could run and run so long as the principal EU member effected, the Irish Republic, feels it needs to.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 15:02
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Well scenario 1 is likely rubbish, scenario 2 absolute nonsense, which leaves scenario 3, which I believe is likely, and following pressure from Dublin.
With regards to the request for a standstill, the Commission will carefully assess the new proposals made by the UK
Hey ORAC, nothing to add to the Gibraltar discussion you started?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 16:24
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Waiting to see what happens.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 11:46
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Given that our present Foreign Secretary's grasp of geography is on par with his Leader's grasp of UK-Portugese history. it may be a long wait !
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 17:30
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I believe that he thought Reunion was somewhere near Corsica.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 17:37
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The French have been insisting for years that their overseas departments are integral parts of Metropolitan France - why are they getting all upset when someone believes them…


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Old 30th Jul 2021, 18:33
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
The French have been insisting for years that their overseas departments are integral parts of Metropolitan France - why are they getting all upset when someone believes them…

Not a question of insisting - they are. Known as DOMs (Départements d'outre-mers). as far as I know they are legally equivalent to all other Départements in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overse...ions_of_France
Réunion is a DOM so is legally part of France
Not the fault of the French if the FO doesn't do its homework.
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 18:45
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Somebody hasn’t got a sense of humour…
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 19:31
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Somebody hasn’t got a sense of humour…
Must be the way you tell 'em!
Somebody knows what the longest internal flight in the world is too!

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Old 30th Jul 2021, 19:53
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Réunion is a DOM so is legally part of France
--and so are their islands in the Caribbean. Very convenient because the independent British Commonwealth islands have to make do and mend with what resources they have.

The French ones: Massive road systems, airports, housing estates all proudly bearing the starred flag of the European Union
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Old 30th Jul 2021, 20:16
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Originally Posted by Ninthace View Post
Not a question of insisting - they are. Known as DOMs (Départements d'outre-mers). as far as I know they are legally equivalent to all other Départements in France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overse...ions_of_France
Réunion is a DOM so is legally part of France
Not the fault of the French if the FO doesn't do its homework.
It's an easy mistake to make, though it ought not be by the civil service, since most if not all the DOMs have zip codes starting with 9...., the same as suburbs around Paris.

What it does is exposes the appalling lack of expertise or knowledge within the FO.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 07:18
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I wonder if the FO think New Caledonia is off Scotland though not really a DOM but not dissimilar in some ways.

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Old 31st Jul 2021, 08:08
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--and so are their islands in the Caribbean.
Comes in handy. When we visited one on holiday I could use my mobile at home rates as we were in the EU territory.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 08:43
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
--and so are their islands in the Caribbean. Very convenient because the independent British Commonwealth islands have to make do and mend with what resources they have.

The French ones: Massive road systems, airports, housing estates all proudly bearing the starred flag of the European Union
Wonder which club the average commonwealth citizen would rather be in?
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 10:19
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And they get a full vote in all French elections, which is more than I did as a resident expat in France.
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 11:03
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Somebody hasn’t got a sense of humour…

Sense of humour - Tory version ... laugh at others
Non-Tory version ... laugh with others
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Old 31st Jul 2021, 12:28
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CJ, having read your views about women in the military forum, I don't think you know the difference.

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Old 31st Jul 2021, 13:26
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ORAC- my views in the Military Forum had nothing to do with humour. They were based on experience which encompassed the observation of the near complete change, from the stereotype 'housewife' of my youth, to the unremitting clamour of today's 'want it all' cohort. I make no argument against the wishes expressed for 'equality' - I do, however, find a degree of hypocrisy in the complaints of lack of 'special' understanding. The need to resist the urge to physically defend myself against an unreasoning knife-wielding spouse was exercised often enough to doubt the supposed 'gentleness' of the fair sex. That it was hormonally caused was little comfort.on such occasions, I have managed for over 80 years to avoid any of the 'crimes' supposedly 'natural' to men. - I suspect that , in spite of the media's efforts to add yet more sensation, I am far from unusual.
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