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Old 1st Jan 2021, 11:25
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
How come that all the materials I used to build our house were zero rated for VAT, then?
They weren't though, were they?. You/we were allowed to use an exemption. Go and buy a pallet of blocks for your new garden shed and try and reclaim the VAT.

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I agree 100% with your original point btw.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 11:28
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If it is such an important issue of principle England could have followed Scotland’s lead before the end of the transition period and made all women’s sanitary products completely free. Or it could have just been an expedient political statement to show the sunny uplands. I guess we’ll never know.
Scotland chose to do it, not by breaching EU regulations, but by bypassing them by making these products free. The rest of the UK could have chosen to do the same, but that would not have made a jot of difference to the key issue, which is that the EU considers products like bricks, timber and other building supplies to be "essential products", and hence completely free from VAT, yet does not consider essential women's sanitary products to be "essential", an iniquitous decision by any standard.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 14:00
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knc, you can assume what you like, I do not read any "newspapers") and as for the biased broadcasting company,
Sorry that you couldn't understand what I wrote, the adjective referred to you, not necessarily the rag,
Yet, strangely, given your ability to post a myriad of links to grauniad articles, the attached one seems to have escaped you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...it-economic-uk
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 14:15
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How on earth anyone can reach the conclusion that lengths of timber, cable, pipe etc used to build a house were "essential items" and hence free from any VAT at all, and yet women's sanitary products were not, is beyond me.

Very simple - allow political decision-makers to define the ruling and then, further amend the ruling by a witless group in Westminster, such that the same items, when used in a NEW build, don't carry the VAT required when used to rebuild a structure damaged beyond repair.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 14:17
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e...ng-post-brexit

On Thursday - just hours before the UK's full departure from the EU - UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) confirmed EU and English vessels would not be able to take part in pulse fishing within UK waters.

The Government department wrote: "With effect from 23:00 tonight, pulse trawling by EU and English vessels in UK waters will no longer be licensed."

Former MEP Martin Daubney hailed the quick move from Downing Street to ban pulse fishing and called on the Government to now "kick super trawlers out of our waters". Zac Goldsmith, Minister for Pacific and the Environment, also praised the announcement from DEFRA on Twitter with three hand-clapping emojis.

The controversial practice of pulse fishing involves sending electric signals to scare fish away from the seabed before scooping them up into nets.

In 2006, a system of derogations enabled the practice of pulse trawling to continue after catches involving the process were banned eight years earlier in 1998.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 14:56
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
NLG: Your post is pretty much offensive; probably not only to ORAC but others too.
First, you ask if ORAC has worked for a company that has contributed to the Exchequer. ORAC, as far as I can see is not a company so your question was either not aimed at ORAC or was clumsily put together. Not so long ago, I was working in Saudi Arabia and lived on a camp populated mainly by BAE personnel. The BAE personnel were not paying UK taxes but the company was. Is this an example of what you were referring to? In my case, I was working for a Saudi company so neither I nor the company were paying into the Exchequer of the UK. However, I had paid tax & N.I. right up to retirement at 65, regardless of where I was working. The one exception to this was during my 4 years in Germany and the question of UK tax/N.I. didn't come into it due to the reciprocal agreements between the UK & Germany, via the EU.

So you think military service is some sort of abuse of the system? "Military people have screwed the UK"? I take it you haven't served in the armed forces? Let me enlighten you; the general feeling among a lot of the Forces is that the UK has screwed them, not the other way round.

And ORAC didn't destroy your work qualifications, nor those of anybody else. If you have real professional qualifications, nothing will change that. If it is mutual recognition of qualifications between the UK and EU that bothers you, perhaps you should look at yourself. There are avenues you can take to have your qualifications recognised. Note: They may need to be recognised by individual nations within the EU, not the EU itself. If your qualifications include the ability to use Google or Duckduckgo, then you can research this quite quickly. Although it could be argued that you have had 4 years to do this, it is never too late.

I am not writing this on behalf of ORAC, ORAC is quite capable of taking care of herself. I am also not writing this because I agree with ORAC's politics; we are on opposite sides of the political divide and, unless ORAC experiences a Damascene Moment, will always be. But there was no need for your vitriolic post and I think you should apologise to ORAC.
I have deleted my post and unreservedly apologize to Orac. However I do have professional aviation qualifications. I am a licensed aircraft engineer. My licence was gained under the EASA system. It was issued by the CAA under that system. Yes I could have changed it to an Irish or Dutch CAA one over time at costs to me. However technically and legally to do my job I needed my licence on me. It lives in my rucksack with my passport. And I am a patriot to the country that invented the engineers licence in the first place. Lots of people did change prior to the pandemic. Covid has certainly got in the way of anyone I know recently that has tried to change and change was never that easy beforehand. Brexit going to be great for the British Aviation industry? Not on your Nellie. Textron closed two corporate MROs this year. G work passed over to a third party on UK. The rest of their book work passed into the EU. Loads of extra paperwork and costs for any MROs to do non UK work ( that was most of the bread and butter work) they did. One will have to wait and see what Airbus decide to do. Reason for this? Rabid nationalist Tories and their non dom owned supporting rags. Pulling us out of every bloody thing due to their rabid dogma. I blame that pratt Corbyn and his left loons as well. Then again, he was more Brexit that Rees Bogg.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 15:43
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Originally Posted by denachtenmai View Post
knc, you can assume what you like, I do not read any "newspapers") and as for the biased broadcasting company,
Sorry that you couldn't understand what I wrote, the adjective referred to you, not necessarily the rag,
Yet, strangely, given your ability to post a myriad of links to grauniad articles, the attached one seems to have escaped you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...it-economic-uk
I actually just read another article on The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...k-kent-village

Can anyone explain why these Brexit-backing areas can't just accept that they won and get over it?
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 15:50
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LNG,

Referencing aircraft engineering and licensing, they both seem covered by the deal (Title II - Aviation Safety and Annex SERVIN-4 which explicitly cover cross-recognition of qualifications and licences together with service suppliers and independent contractors involved in "Maintenance and repair of aircraft and parts thereof"). Additionally there is a dedicated Specialised Committee on Aviation Safety, which addresses matters covered by the above. So it would seem a matter of them getting their act together - assuming the good will exists on both sides of the table to progress things in an expeditious manner.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 15:51
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Originally Posted by Big_D View Post
I actually just read another article on The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...k-kent-village

Can anyone explain why these Brexit-backing areas can't just accept that they won and get over it?
Unbelievable! They voted for these truck parks, now they're getting them they're up in arms.

To quote Sqt. Major Williams "Oh dear, how sad, never mind"!
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:03
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
Unbelievable! They voted for these truck parks, now they're getting them they're up in arms.

To quote Sqt. Major Williams "Oh dear, how sad, never mind"!
What a nasty comment. So the people of Kent should expect the county to be tarmaced?
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:07
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Originally Posted by denachtenmai View Post
knc, you can assume what you like, I do not read any "newspapers") and as for the biased broadcasting company,
Sorry that you couldn't understand what I wrote, the adjective referred to you, not necessarily the rag,
Yet, strangely, given your ability to post a myriad of links to grauniad articles, the attached one seems to have escaped you.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...it-economic-uk
Awww, how sweet. It's always nice to receive accolades, makes me feel sort of warm and fuzzy inside, and wanted, so thank you.

Quite which sources you use for news can only be speculated on, but, as I've mentioned before, only a short while now before Murdoch / UK Faux News hits the airwaves ...and thereafter, the "benefits " of Brexit will be broadcast daily, if not hourly......with a large effigy of Boris with as a permanent backdrop .

Nearly forgot, read the link when it first appeared and, being simple, it did occur to me this made for an interesting read.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:12
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
What a nasty comment. So the people of Kent should expect the county to be tarmaced?
Where else are the customs procedures supposed to happen? I can imagine what the air quality will be there with thousands of shunting diesel trucks. Also, the area is more likely to flood now.

What's more, there are many more similar "Farage Garages" to come! All brought to you by the Conservative Party.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:15
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB View Post
What a nasty comment. So the people of Kent should expect the county to be tarmaced?
Well I'm very sorry, but Kent was one of those areas that voted for Brexit by a margin, they were told what the likely consequences could be and it was roundly dismissed as "project fear". Now it's "project fact" as we knew it would be. There was absolutely no requirement for truck parks, inland clearance depots and the like until 23:00UTC yesterday, a time that, curiously coincided exactly with the UK finally locking the door on it's association with the EU. Brexit voters are already starting to reap what they sowed.

Where do you suppose these facilities should be placed?

I'm sorry, I wouldn't retract a syllable of my previous posting.

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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:16
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I just hope those Frontex border guards do not use their usual modus operandus of beating and shooting anyone trying to pass the border, or capsizing their boats and ships. That would be a tad over the top.
So they are a bit like this lot -

Nothing changes



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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:25
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It's all going to look a lot like 17,410,742 large poultry type birds suddenly realizing that a vote for Bernard Matthews might not have been in their best interests. It's a shame they are no longer in the EU, as now they wont be able to luxuriate in a foreign word like schadenfreude. Like I said before, if you haven't already invested in Civil Service and Red Tape futures, you haven't been paying attention.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:29
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Originally Posted by WB627 View Post
So they are a bit like this lot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqF_nPbX_Ow

Nothing changes

similarly like the Spanish Inquisition and completely opposite to the skit, Everyone knew the Spanish Inquisition was coming. It was quite openly publicized. Everyone knew the lorry parks were coming. It was quite openly publicized.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 16:50
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I guess "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells" now becomes "Disgusted of White Cliffs site".

Full disclosure : - I have a vested interest in this change. Daughter no 2 lives in TW.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 17:43
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Obviously well hidden. Do tell us where it is.
Where what is? Do you refer to the official text or my criticism of the manner in which it is written? The subject of your question certainly is well obscured. Should you be enquiring about the latter, it was not hidden at all. To help you recognise it, allow me to explain that a split infinitive is a grammatical device only partly recognised in Fowler's Dictionary of Modern English Usage - you do have a copy. don't you? - in which an infinitive is allied with another word, usually an adverb.

Thanks to a succession of diligent English teachers, I now experience physical pain when confronted with this dreadful construction, hence my mentioning it for such (little) benefit as it might have for others. See if you can recognise my deliberate mistake.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 18:09
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Where what is? Do you refer to the official text or my criticism of the manner in which it is written? The subject of your question certainly is well obscured. Should you be enquiring about the latter, it was not hidden at all. To help you recognise it, allow me to explain that a split infinitive is a grammatical device only partly recognised in Fowler's Dictionary of Modern English Usage - you do have a copy. don't you? - in which an infinitive is allied with another word, usually an adverb.

Thanks to a succession of diligent English teachers, I now experience physical pain when confronted with this dreadful construction, hence my mentioning it for such (little) benefit as it might have for others. See if you can recognise my deliberate mistake.
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Old 1st Jan 2021, 18:10
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Surely, if built and paid for by the present government, the lorry parks will not be required and will sit deserted as traffic flows freely - thus allowing KnC and others to yet again scorn their cost as unnecessary and to line the pockets of their friends?
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