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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:14
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Ah, you've noticed. This deeply ingrained predilection into the. for some, English psyche has more heads than a Hydra. Expect this to become more prominent once the "Great day of liberation " arrives at the end of the month...

There again, it' not just at International level. There are many locations in the UK where, unless you've got connections for the last 743 years, you will always be an "outsider ".
This mentality is not unique to the English psyche - far from it. I've encountered similar reactions between villagers along the Moray coast regarding fellow Scots from nearby villages as outsiders. It's certainly prevalent here in France too - with people in our department having a jaundiced view of people from Paris, Marseille or Bordeaux.
In fact, it's hard to think of any country where this is not the case. Sorry.



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Old 13th Jan 2020, 07:46
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Here in Suffolk it's "DFL's " - Down from London. I have a feeling that it's similar feeling that brought about Brexit.

So what happens now? My guess is not much unless Brexit goes horribly wrong and provokes a serious recession. Should that happen then I think that we will see two thirds of the country turn on the other third.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:31
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With mid-ranking Tories calling for a more than doubling of the UK budget defecit from circa £40bn in 2019 to £100bn in the coming budget to keep Blightly afloat as access to the EU market is restricted, members of the Bank of England Monetary Policy Committee (them that set wholesale bank interest rates) are suggesting further stimulous of the ecomomy may be needed, and they're prepared to vote for further rate cuts.

https://www.ft.com/content/3d6fa65a-...9-0bcf87a328f2

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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:40
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Nowhere to go really unless they are contemplating negative rates.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:14
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Here in Suffolk it's "DFL's " - Down from London. I have a feeling that it's similar feeling that brought about Brexit.

So what happens now? My guess is not much unless Brexit goes horribly wrong and provokes a serious recession. Should that happen then I think that we will see two thirds of the country turn on the other third.
With the unfortunate success in the GE, any illusory benefits, non being readily obvious, have to be maintained until after the local elections in May in the hope of convincing the electorate to repeat their voting anomaly. Thereafter, it's only a mater of time, and the effects of skewed trade "deals " with Trump, before disquiet begins and propagates.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:21
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By those of your ilk.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:51
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COLOUR - Again!

Mods - please!
You have a colour prejudice?

I thought blue was the most popular colour on here.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:58
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More usually, it's seeing red Sall!
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 10:07
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By those of your ilk.
So, would your contention be that even if the promised benefits don't accrue that people would be unjustified in being unhappy that they had been promised better times after Brexit? The whole project was predicated on that resulting happy outcome so I think that we are entitled to expect all those benefits. Or are we now downgrading our expectations ?
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 10:39
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Your assertive presumptions - not mine. I prefer to wait and see. Don't cross the bridge until necessary. Give things a chance before ringing alarm bells.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 13:33
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Originally Posted by jindabyne View Post
Your assertive presumptions - not mine. I prefer to wait and see. Don't cross the bridge until necessary. Give things a chance before ringing alarm bells.
Alas, you missed out blue sky thinking / under the radar / out of the box, but, otherwise not a bad attempt for the first nomination for the coveted JB "Number of Cliches in one post 2020 Award "
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Thank you! Now, back to soaring.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 14:25
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Here in Suffolk it's "DFL's " - Down from London. I have a feeling that it's similar feeling that brought about Brexit.

So what happens now? My guess is not much unless Brexit goes horribly wrong and provokes a serious recession. Should that happen then I think that we will see two thirds of the country turn on the other third.
And those on the better side of the Humber were less than enthused when Hull made a land grab without consultation. Creating North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire was then a political fudge rather than returning them to Lincolnshire proper.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 22:54
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Effluent Man,

No where to go, from 0.75%?

Is maths not your strong point?
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 06:24
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https://order-order.com/2020/01/13/m...dancy-meeting/

Remainer MEPs Fight for Their Pensions


Britain’s MEPs were called to a meeting at the EU Parliament this evening to discuss the ending of their mandates at the end of the month, how redundancies of both MEPs and staff will work, and how they need to go about shutting down their offices. Things were clearly in high spirits as Guido is informed Lib Dem and Labour MEPs went in determined to secure their pension rights. On the other hand, Farage has promised to not take a penny of his golden goodbye…

One Labour MEP desperately tried to justify why she deserved her full pension entitlement because she’s “been working really hard creating the biggest pro-EU movement in the UK”. Guido hears this caused laughter from all sides, including Brussels officials who spotted her movement clearly hadn’t worked…

Richard Corbett kept asking about whether he’d be able to get a ’widower’s pension’ and Caroline Voaden came out with the line “It shows just how unfair the system is” when she realised she won’t be getting her full pension. One source reports they think they spotted a couple of her colleagues in tears…

Unsurprisingly the Lib Dems were seething, with one telling Brexit Party MEP June Mummery to “shut up” when she tried talking, to which she fired back “shut yer big gob you”. One MEP tells Guido next time they’re definitely bringing popcorn…

POLITICO - FAREWELL TO STRASBOURG:

MEPs will be debating the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement this morning, with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen among the speakers due to address the European Parliament before lunchtime. For British MEPs it will be a glorious/bittersweet moment (delete as appropriate) as they begin their long goodbye to the EU’s institutions. They have until Thursday to vacate their Strasbourg bureaus,
the Guardian’s Jennifer Rankin reports, although they will be allowed to keep their Brussels offices for another two and a half weeks. “Departing British MEPs will have to return access passes, special EU ‘laissez-passer’ cards, voting cards, office keys, iPads and laptops, as well as passes allowing free travel on the Belgian railway network SNCB,” she says. That’s got to hurt.....
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 08:16
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And they didn't see that coming?
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 13:54
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" Ding dong merrily on high, the mugs can pay to fund it ! "

Spiffing idea and suggestion from Boris what ! ......and doubtless there will be those, bedecked in their Union Jack apparel, waving their plastic flags, drinking port, or warm brown ale, on the night who probably will part with their money.

As we have a Gov't so obsessed with leaving, perhaps they should all be invited to pay the cost between them.

In a rare diversion from he usual impeccable Guardian readers standards, one wishes to politely say...F$^K that for suggestion ! " ...if I have a drink on the night, it won't be to "celebrate " .it will be in memory of the UK before the country decided to believe the most comprehensive campaign of disinformation in history.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51107646
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 15:47
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Surely a bugler playing the Last Post would be more appropriate.
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 16:02
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0.75%? I remember times when interest rates were twenty times that! And yes, maths is definitely my strong point, I'm Almost aspergers on numbers.

I think that it's important that Remainers don't let up on Brexit. The intention is obviously to attempt to say when it all goes horribly pear shaped that it is something that we all share in. That will never happen as far as I am concerned. Leavers will be held to account for ever!
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Old 14th Jan 2020, 16:42
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