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Old 11th Mar 2019, 08:27
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Another hare-brained scheme

Mr McDonnell's latest wheeze:
Axe personal allowance and pay everyone 48 a week
and It doesn't affect your benefits.. Courtesy of the Grauniad.

Labour Wheeze

So where is the incentive for the current iteration of "Yoof" to develop any kind of a work ethic?

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Old 11th Mar 2019, 09:16
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I see a subtle difference there.

Now your employer pays you and the Government lets you keeps some of it and takes at least 20% of the rest.

They would take 20% of everything and give you 48pw back, even to those not earning. Those not earning get their 48 from those earning more than 125,000.

Are the numbers not paying tax equal to the numbers earning over 125k?

At the moment those earning and paying taxes are 'in the system '. Those not earning or in the lump are not in the system. To get their free 48pw they will need to be in the system.

​​​​​​The STATE would be extend its control. Would 48 be enough to get the pikeys in the net?
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I know of one option that would appeal to the voters - pay politicians the average wage.

I wonder how many Labour MPs would vote for that?
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Minimum wage would be more appropriate to their usefulness.
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Minimum wage would be more appropriate to their usefulness.
You are being very unkind to the minimum wage earners.
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Old 11th Mar 2019, 21:11
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Originally Posted by Saintsman View Post
I know of one option that would appeal to the voters - pay politicians the average wage.
That would be an awful lot of money.

(Hint: most UK politicians are councillors. Most of them get "paid", if you count the allowance as pay, less than the minimum wage.)
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 14:12
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Pay politicians minimum wage. As soon as it gets difficult to recruit them, up it slightly.
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Pay politicians minimum wage and watch the bribes increase exponentially as they make up the missing wages...................
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Originally Posted by Imagegear View Post
So where is the incentive for the current iteration of "Yoof" to develop any kind of a work ethic?

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If you think you could live on 48 / week indefinately, then you are very mistaken. That is the incentive. 48 buys very little these days. Hell it costs more than that to fill my car up never mind insure, run or buy it. What about rent? Food?

I'm not saying that this idea is a particularly good or bad idea but I doubt very much it would effect any work ethic.
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Finland tried Universal Basic Income and after 2 years gave up on it as being non-productive.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 19:25
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Originally Posted by cdtaylor_nats View Post
Pay politicians minimum wage.
As I pointed out, that would be a pay rise for most UK politicians.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 21:20
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Here's an example of the kakistocracy at work, doing stuff that's none of their business and squandering taxpayer money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/07/an-experimental-swedish-art-project-will-pay-you-do-nothing-rest-your-life/?utm_term=.c654ffd8da68

"Hare brained" ? You bet !!!
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 22:56
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I'm up for it. I haven't had a proper job since 2007. Plus no income since 2013.

​​​Houswife basically. House husband. My wife is the breadwinner. A bit of pin money suits me just fine.

Right now I'm entitled to absolutely nothing. If I got a job I'd be crucified tax wise. While paying silly money for childcare.

I don't think it's harebrained.
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