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Old 27th Feb 2019, 22:07
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Angry The "New" Radio 2 - car commuting.

I used to be an ardent R2 listener in my car.
"Wake up with Wogan" ..he over-egged the innuendo at times but it was always a bit of harmless fun to start the day off.

After Wogan's retirement...Chris Evans. OK to begin with and great with the kids and for his outstanding charity work but he obviously began to think that listeners preferred to hear his over excited. prattling voice over almost every piece of music on the playlist - I didn't - I found it disrespectful to both the listener and the performer who recorded the music.
Now he's gone. Zoe Ball... definitely not the brightest spark in the tinder box. I gave her a chance but I just can't listen to her for long. It's now worse than any other FM station I can find, either local BBC or commercial radio.

"Drive Time" with Jonny Walker was a relaxing programme to drive home to. Easy listening, good music.
More recently, Simon Mayo's early evening programme...good fun. I especially enjoyed his listeners' "confessions" spot. Forcing him to have a co-host in the name of being PC (albeit Jo Whiley being a very good DJ in her own right) - not a good idea, really didn't work out. Everything became stilted and awkward. Not surprisingly, he's legged it, too and taken his ideas with him.

Now replaced by Sara Cox...Oh dear. Is her evening programme supposed to be aimed at adults - or primary school children? I have difficulty understanding half of what she prattles on about - and I class myself as a northerner so have a bit of a headstart on the accent.

Smooth FM is now tuned into my car radio for my daily commutes. I'm no great fan of commercial radio but at least it's bearable in preference to the most recent Radio 2 rubbish.
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 23:35
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
Smooth FM is now tuned into my car radio for my daily commutes. I'm no great fan of commercial radio but at least it's bearable in preference to the most recent Radio 2 rubbish.
Shame its all going to pot. local commercial radio is also under the kosh.

Local radio to close.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 03:37
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How about bringing back Radio Caroline and Johnny Walker? Can anyone else remember his late show, when he would try and have a "conversation" with drivers on Walton cliffs, flashing their headlights in respo se to his questions. Seems hundreds of years ago now in this age of instant communication.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 05:44
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Sadly agree.

What was wrong with Simon Mayo, Rebecca and Matt ?? Where did Rebecca go and what happened to Matt? The Mayo/ Matt double act was brilliant. Mayo’s show was fun and informative, while containing intelligent content. Jo Whilley is lovely, but combining her with Mayo’s show did not work.

I couldn’t listen to Evans, since although he is a brilliant broadcaster, (I worked on TFI Friday), he is too much of a loose canon and uncomfortable to listen to for long. Zoe is lovely, but I need a bit of depth and intelligence these days, which I am sure she has, but not seeing it on her show.

I actually tuned into Radio 1 yesterday, first time for 30 years, and Radio 2 is very similar to it now.

Radio 2 should be intelligent and play music played by talented musicians, not folk on a computer cutting and pasting in their bedrooms. Leave all that and the hyper and banal presentation style to Radio 1.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 05:54
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When at home I used to listen to Radio 4 quite a lot but have become bored with it, so if I want a bit of noise I put my music collection on shuffle. I can't bear the inane babble of DJs. Occasionally am a car passenger on trips down to Cornwall - various local MOR radio stations are tuned into en-route and they all seem to have the same limited play list.
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Simon Mayo has gone all classical. He's gone to Scala Radio

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Old 28th Feb 2019, 06:56
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Cox was always an issue when she was on radio 1 even in engineering workshops with her chat.
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R2 is now ruined for me. The B.B.C. tried to fix a problem that didn't exist. The only weekday daytime bit that is still enjoyable is Ken Bruce. He's followed by hectoring radio Daily Mail who's then followed by fatty Wright with his Americanisms and awful voice - plus some sort of inane inserts. Then we used to get Simon Mayo with his sidekick, confessions and all. Now it's Sarah Cox who sounds like an infant's teacher. A soon to be retired continuity announcer married to my luscious lady friend's cousin has assured me that W1A was nearer to a documentary than many realise. Everything that's done has to tick all of the diversity boxes irrespective of whether the most suitable person is given the job or not.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 07:28
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I used to enjoy listening to Wogan and Pauly in the mornings - so funny. R4 Extra is the station of choice now: at least there's a chance of hearing something worth listening to.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 07:42
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Originally Posted by RedhillPhil View Post
R2 is now ruined for me. The B.B.C. tried to fix a problem that didn't exist. The only weekday daytime bit that is still enjoyable is Ken Bruce. He's followed by hectoring radio Daily Mail who's then followed by fatty Wright with his Americanisms and awful voice - plus some sort of inane inserts. Then we used to get Simon Mayo with his sidekick, confessions and all. Now it's Sarah Cox who sounds like an infant's teacher. A soon to be retired continuity announcer married to my luscious lady friend's cousin has assured me that W1A was nearer to a documentary than many realise. Everything that's done has to tick all of the diversity boxes irrespective of whether the most suitable person is given the job or not.
I've recently gravitated towards R2, away from Smooth as their playlist is pitifully small, and you can almost predicts what track is coming next, and their mid morning show is dire. I agree however that with the exception of Ken Bruce their ourput, not from a music, but from a presenter standpoint is dire. Aside of the breakfast, afternoon and drivetime offerings, has anyone heard that total prick, Rylan on Saturdays afternoons?? Dire doesn't do that "man's" performance justice.

What saddens me is the "Londonisation" of commercial radio, which Global are now undertaking, and apparently the other big player, Bauer are also planning.

I've no objection in principal to centralised radio, but when it is centralised, surely all the presenters down't have to be based in London, and therefore Londoncentric. Base your national stations in cities around the UK and you might get more choice in banter, if not in playlists.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 08:03
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Our default programme is BBC Radio Lincolnshire. We like the local colour. At one point we had a new programmer, son of a well known magician. The complaints were continuous and he departed fairly quickly.

Over many years we have had many new faces but apart from that mis-step there are no complaints. However at night the broadcast switches to the wider Midlands. Nothing wrong but the general tone is different. We just feel more comfortable with the 'old shoe ' than a new broom.😀
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 08:08
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There are a couple of ports on my car radio for plugging in your own portable music device. I now enjoy listening to music and podcasts of my own choosing while driving and I certainly don't miss any radio presenters, perhaps Wogan was the exception.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 08:21
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With the exception of sports coverage, I haven't listened to BBC radio for a long time. It doesn't do anything for me. Others have mentioned Johnny Walker who, for my money, was one of the best DJs ever on radio. I listen to JAZZFM (which I fully understand is not everyone's choice). There are relatively few adverts and when the DJs talk, they just talk about the music or the artistes, rather than inane talk about 'celebrities', veganism, or whatever other rubbish appears on the front page of the red-tops which the commercial and some of the BBC DJs indulge themselves in.
As for the radio stations becoming London-centric, well that's just following the rest of the narrative. One of the biggest problems with the UK economy is that not enough of the money generated is spent outside the capital, but that's been going on for years and anyway it's another story.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 09:40
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R2 is now ruined for me. The B.B.C. tried to fix a problem that didn't exist.
For you and me (and many others) the problem didnít exist. For the BBC it did. The problem was that one of their primetime radio shows was hosted by a white, middle aged man.

The whole Mayo / Whiley shenanigans seems to me to be typical of the modern BBC. I made the comment on another recent thread that the BBC seems to have become incredibly inward looking and self-obsessed, and this is a classic example. The fact that the original Simon Mayo show was successful and popular with listeners had little currency with the powers that be at the BBC. The decision to pair Mayo with Jo Whiley had far more to do with the satisfaction of a small number of BBC directors and managers than it did with the enjoyment of tens of thousands of listeners.
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Radio is evolving. There is a movement towards small niche markets that cater for the listeners not the advertisers.

Here's one. Primordial Radio I listen to this most days, it is amazing how no adverts all day just cheer you up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymA1...8#action=share


It's not everyone's cup of tea but the same model could be used for any music genre or niche interest.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 11:24
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Originally Posted by Andy_S View Post
For you and me (and many others) the problem didnít exist. For the BBC it did. The problem was that one of their primetime radio shows was hosted by a white, middle aged man.

The whole Mayo / Whiley shenanigans seems to me to be typical of the modern BBC. I made the comment on another recent thread that the BBC seems to have become incredibly inward looking and self-obsessed, and this is a classic example. The fact that the original Simon Mayo show was successful and popular with listeners had little currency with the powers that be at the BBC. The decision to pair Mayo with Jo Whiley had far more to do with the satisfaction of a small number of BBC directors and managers than it did with the enjoyment of tens of thousands of listeners.
I whole heartedly agree. I also think that there, is a lack of presenters with personality. Ken Bruce's show is popular because of the listeners input with humour and insight. He can also speak to listeners in a manner which is polite yet with banter.
There is dearth of presenters who can 'hold' an audience with stories or just talking. Paul O Grady has the banter. He has a loyal and appreciative audience.

Sara Cox, Jo Whiley, Zoe Ball, just don't seem to have that personality for R2.
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And Ken Bruce will be gone by the end of the year...
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And Ken Bruce will be gone by the end of the year...
Any bets as to the gender of his replacement?
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 11:53
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Totally agree about the death of R2 - it really is almost like R1 nowadays LOL
I only keep R2 on now in the car if I need extra traffic info.

At home I use a Marantz Internet Radio and we usually just leave it on Power FM which I believe is Belgian but broadcasts in (Dutch ?)
However it is mostly just music (anything from the 50's up to present day but mostly Classic Rock or Pop/Rock) with no DJ's,just the normal amount of News programmes - which I cannot understand anyway - so that is fine
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Any bets as to the gender of his replacement?
Provided it's a radio professional, not one of those celebrities such as Michael Ball, Kim Wilde, or the absolutely dreadful Kate Garraway I don't mind, and if they dare give the morning slot to Rylan Clark-Neal I would be appalled.
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