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Old 15th Feb 2019, 19:24
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Battle of Britain Film Score

Anybody hear the R4 program about this. Originally it was intended that William Walton's music alone was to be used. Then Ron Goodwin was brought in and wrote the majority of the score. In fact Walton's "Battle in The Air" was the only piece of his composition. They explained how the Goodwin score represented the various phases of the battle from the Luftwaffe oompah march to the quite moving piece at the end with Olivier at Bentley Priory. Worth seeking it out on i player.
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Effluent Man,

There was a DvD release some years ago that had an alternative version of the film with the original score, as well as the film as released, it sounded good but NOT the same!
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Worth seeking it out on i player.
Date and time broadcast? (makes it easier to find on iPlayer, cos it's not immediately obvious from a search)
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:09
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They did talk about that on the program. I think that sometimes it's just a matter of what you have got used to. I remember seeing the film M*A*S*H and having already seen the TV version It seemed odd.
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I think it was 1600 ish on 14/2
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Somewhere I have a copy of "Fly and Deliver" by Hugh Bergel, an ATA [ferry] pilot and pool commander (essentially his memoirs) and he briefly mentions this with some disdain (I believe he says Walton was a friend of his). Certain the remaining bit with walton's score works pretty well IMHO.

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I have listened to the Walton score and it is difficult. But his Battle in the Air is magnificent, as is the aerial photography and editing
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
I think it was 1600 ish on 14/2
Thanks, looks like this one then: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0002hm4

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That was it. I only caught the tail end of it in the car. Well done.
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I remember seeing the film M*A*S*H and having already seen the TV version It seemed odd.
The other way round for me. Always preferred Donald Sutherland as Hawkeye rather than Alan Alda's portrayal
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Had a mate - a navigator - who managed to plumb his cassette recorder into the RT and transmit the Luftwaffe theme during a formation sortie......

It was the best music, even though they (the Luftwaffe) came second. But then they didn't have Section Officer Harvey..........
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Originally Posted by teeteringhead View Post
Had a mate - a navigator - who managed to plumb his cassette recorder into the RT and transmit the Luftwaffe theme during a formation sortie......

It was the best music, even though they (the Luftwaffe) came second. But then they didn't have Section Officer Harvey..........
Oh God... You had to mention her.... It will set them all off and Matron will need to come in and calm them down with extra strong Coca!
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I think that what happened was that Walton failed to produce all the required music on time, and to fill the gaps the producer asked Ron Goodwin to write the appropriate pieces at short notice. This provoked a strong reaction from Laurence Olivier, who considered his dignity impugned by appearing in a film with music by someone named 'Ron' (of whom he had never heard...) and not by his fellow knight in shining armour. Olivier threatened to withdraw from the film. However, when he heard Goodwin's superb music scores for the film, he relented. Quite right too, they are superb.
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Originally Posted by teeteringhead View Post
Had a mate - a navigator - who managed to plumb his cassette recorder into the RT and transmit the Luftwaffe theme during a formation sortie......

It was the best music, even though they (the Luftwaffe) came second. But then they didn't have Section Officer Harvey..........
Didn't know cassette recorders had been invented in WW2.
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There is a version on youtube with the excellent end score starting with fat Goering departing on a train and ending with Dowding at BP with the quote by Churchill in the sky, followed by the casualty stats.

Quite different from the one they broadcast on TV with a silent scene of Dowding. I donít like that version.
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