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Old 16th Feb 2019, 20:44
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Clearly the main reason she wants to come back is due to the demise of the caliphate. Had the caliphate been successful &, since she wasn’t ‘fazed’ by the atrocities, I very much doubt we’d be hearing from her at all.
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 23:12
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
I dunno, today's kids - the Troubles weren't that long ago. (OK not the beheadings so much, but they did all the other stuff, and the dead were just as dead regardless of whether or not their heads had been cut off.)
Don’t forget, ‘jihad’ has been ongoing for 14 centuries.

Nothing else comes close.

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Old 16th Feb 2019, 23:44
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Originally Posted by 777JRM View Post


Don’t forget, ‘jihad’ has been ongoing for 14 centuries.

Nothing else comes close.

Or the "Children's Crusade" - embellishments and inaccuracies notwithstanding.

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Old 17th Feb 2019, 09:18
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As she has been away for four years, if she should come back, doesn't she have to wait six months to go back on the NHS? Maybe the Mullahs and Imams will fund a private hospital for her and her, as yet, unborn child.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 09:30
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They have a thing about "right to life" in their declaration of independence, which is the nearest thing they have to holy scripture, but they ignore it totally:
  • death penalty
  • gun deaths
  • lack of health service
  • military rampaging round the world killing more people than the rest of the world put together.
The right to life is not absolute in The US, per the 5th and 14th Amendments to The Constitution (which actually does form the basis of US law).

There is no "right" to access healthcare.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 09:54
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Originally Posted by 777JRM View Post
Don’t forget, ‘jihad’ has been ongoing for 14 centuries.

Nothing else comes close.
Oh Yes It Does - 2,000 years of persecution of Jews.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 09:57
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Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
As she has been away for four years, if she should come back, doesn't she have to wait six months to go back on the NHS? Maybe the Mullahs and Imams will fund a private hospital for her and her, as yet, unborn child.
Not sure. She was a minor when she left, and is now 19 according to what's been reported, so it may well be that the system only considers her to have been out of the UK, as far as health care entitlement goes, for between 1 and 2 years.

I would be surprised if she doesn't make it back to the UK, TBH. There must be groups falling over themselves to try and get her out of that camp and back here, so they can make money from her story. I'm surprised we haven't yet heard of a crowd-funding initiative to get her back to the UK, it's just the sort of thing I would have expected to start as soon as the Times story was published.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 10:07
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Could we send Prince Philipp in his car to collect her from the airport?
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Oh Yes It Does - 2,000 years of persecution of Jews.
Most of which carried out by the ‘religion of peace’.

Hence my point.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 10:56
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It seems she has given birth to a boy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47270857
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:00
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Oh Yes It Does - 2,000 years of persecution of Jews.
Precisely. And the fact that it's a boy complicates the situation, instead of wishing to hack bits off they will want to be putting a gun in his hand.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:10
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There's a legal analysis here Can the Home Secretary prevent Shamina Begum returning to the UK? - BarristerBlogger which other lawyers are saying is spot on. (Might not help those who don't do "facts" and "experts" though.)
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Precisely. And the fact that it's a boy complicates the situation, instead of wishing to hack bits off they will want to be putting a gun in his hand.
But they do hack bits off boys - something they hold in common with their sworn enemies.

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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:20
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Having had bits hacked off ( for medical reasons) I can confirm that there are no disadvantages for the male.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:39
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In the meantime the UK housing of the ‘brave’ ‘White Helmets’, who there are serious doubts about, goes quietly on. Hmmm.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:48
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Originally Posted by Geezers of Nazareth View Post
Could we send Prince Philipp in his car to collect her from the airport?
Brilliant. Easily the best idea I have heard.
Wish I had thought of it.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 11:49
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In the meantime the UK housing of the ‘brave’ ‘White Helmets’, who there are serious doubts about, goes quietly on. Hmmm.
I think its more than doubts, pretty well-established fact now they are a front for al-Nusra, not that the evidence is just overwhelming it isn't really hidden anymore, even their "sponsors" realize the game is up on that one.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:25
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
It seems she has given birth to a boy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47270857

Sorted, End of debate.

She can now join the other thousands of nameless refugees with children in Syria waiting to be processed and receive any humanitarian aid and case consideration on an equal footing with them, She no longer has an ace up her sleeve to get her to the front of the queue for reentry to the U.K.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:42
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In the meantime the UK housing of the ‘brave’ ‘White Helmets’, who there are serious doubts about......
Only amongst the normal Russian and Syrian apologists.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 13:08
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Did she and other not throw away their passports on arrival in Syria? In which case who is going to give her a new one if and before she travels?
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