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Old 15th Feb 2019, 12:03
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A Van, I don't believe she has a passport. It was said she used her sister's passport.

Her fertility is not in question. I wonder how many more babies she will pop though I believe benefits are now capped.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 13:00
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No doubt using 'Legal Aid' so we pay for it.
Extremely unlikely - she won't meet the criteria. Campaigning human rights lawyers are usually working pro-bono or funded by charities.

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Old 15th Feb 2019, 15:21
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Back in 2015, a certain person who we wished to be isolated was sent to a remote island in the Atlantic Ocean.
Tony Blair?
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 16:30
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I'm amused by the notion that she wants to return 'home' given her obvious love for ISIS and the Caliphate which she has described in glowing terms in her newspaper interview. I also wonder what the chances are of her 'husband' joining her in the UK assuming he survives the final battle or any prison sentence he receives if he ever gets captured. I'm sure that some left wing liberals could present a case justifying his entry into the UK to join his loving wife and child. I'm also sure though that if Javid can justify banning Begum from the UK then that would apply even more so to her husband.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 16:44
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The few respectable articles I have read, have each said, legally, there is little/nothing the home sec can do from preventing her re entry into the UK.
The UK is not obliged to collect her, but if she just turns up at the UK border she would gain access. All the gnashing of teeth by various people won't mean anything. I am sure there is already a legal team who are working on her behalf.
They can smell the money.

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Old 15th Feb 2019, 16:56
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I am sure there is already a legal team who are working on her behalf.
They can smell the money.
Not even money.. liberal media kudo's...
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 16:57
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Skydiver,

I'm vaguely left wing and liberalish. My choice would have been for Putin's planes to have carpet bombed the remaining ISIS enclave until nothing remained but dust.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:02
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Vaguely left wing and liberalish AND MURDEROUS......
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:15
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Shamima Begum appears to have been from a dysfunctional family, vulnerable and therefore open to radicalisation. Since 2015, U.K. schools have been taking part in the Prevent Strategy. It seems like she was exactly the sort of recruit that Daesh and similar groups are looking to recruit,

https://assets.publishing.service.go...-advice-v6.pdf

“The statutory guidance makes clear that schools and childcare providers are expected to assess the risk of children being drawn into terrorism, including support for extremist ideas that are part of terrorist ideology. This means being able to demonstrate both a general understanding of the risks affecting children and young people in the area and a specific understanding of how to identify individual children who may be at risk of radicalisation and what to do to support them.”
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:19
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Originally Posted by pr00ne View Post
Effluent Man,

Vaguely left wing and liberalish AND MURDEROUS......
Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:21
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Nope, just plain old fashioned murderous!
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:36
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Fire with fire then.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:37
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Nope, just cold blooded killing of innocent people vs cold blooded killing of innocent people. Two monstrous wrong's do not a right make!
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 21:42
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Slightly surprised to see a barrister employing the greengrocer's apostrophe.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 22:04
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Rapid typing....
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 23:02
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There are two 'Begum' girls - one called Shamima and one called Sharmeena.
Abese Hussen is the father of Amira Abase
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 04:36
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All this talk about it "not being possible" to deny her entry is complete rubbish. Laws are just words on a piece of paper. Physically, keeping an idiot terrorist girl outside the UK's borders should not be a challenge. It's clearly the right thing to do, and the words on the pieces of paper can quite easily be changed accordingly.

There are more than 7 billion people in the world. Every single one is not special, unique, and wonderful. There's no reason to bring worthless pieces like this one back to negatively influence our society, even if it hurts the delicate emotions of weak people like PDR1.
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 04:49
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The difference between us and despotic and evil regimes like Isis is that we define a set of rules and we abide by them rather than just going with the lynch-mob mentality or bullying from the top. In Britain this concept started with Henry II - the one who started our essential comcept that even the King rules UNDER the law, and is not above it. If we don't have that then we are no different. If we give in to the bullying thugs then we become them. It's a position of strength, not weakness.

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Old 16th Feb 2019, 06:15
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That us one view, and one that I don't entirely disagree with. OTOH there is growing evidence that the attitudes of the Begum family have been instrumental in forming the opinions that led to this girl's actions. Personally I would like to see Muslims go to the back of the queue when considering permission to enter Britain and preference given to their victims. People who wish to renounce the faith but who will be persecuted for that action. LGTB people who similarly are persecuted by these crackpots and then those of the Christian, or other faiths.

Before howling this down consider this: No other religion sets out to harm the followers of competing religions, or those of none. It's mainly the latter that have my sympathy. The day will come when religion is looked upon with the same attitude that we now reserve for alchemy.
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Old 16th Feb 2019, 06:35
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A big bother is that government(s) have not, at this very late date, passed effective legislation that deals with these terrorist no/right-to-return cases so that there is equivocation when a matter arises.
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