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Old 20th Sep 2021, 22:27
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Originally Posted by BWSBoy6 View Post
Point of order.
I was brought up an Irish Catholic and women haven’t been required to wear head coverings in mass for years. It’s a matter of personal choice and I’m pretty sure I haven’t heard recently of the priest ordering a husband to beat his wife for not dressing appropriately.
I have known women who were refused entry to church in Milan for uncovered hair.

Are you sure your colleague is wearing a burka to work - especially through choice?
Yes, full burka including face covering. She says it's through her own choice, and as she lives alone in her own flat about 300 miles from the rest of her family (because that's where the degree-apprenticeship she chose is based I have no reason to disbelieve her. She is happy to remove her face mask for comparison with her PIT pass when passing through gate security and if challenged while on-site. I gather from her fellow apprentices that in the evenings she wears fashionable clothes and immaculately elaborate make up, but she prefers not to when at work.

Interesting that your wife and daughters had no issues with western dress in Egypt. Female members of my family had exactly the opposite. They dressed modestly out of respect of local culture. No short shorts, skimpy tank tops when out of the hotel compound.
Interesting. We didn't stay in a hotel with a "compound" - we based the trip in Luxor and used a small hotel on the west bank which had a mainly non-european clientele. I've never seen the pount in touring to a foreign culture and then locking yourself in a quaisi-1st-world ghetto.

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 07:48
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Waiting in the departure lounge at Doha a female walked in dressed in the full hijab kit, once the handbag had been downed on a seat the kit came off to be stuffed in the bag and revealed dress to be consisting of jeans and blouse, no head covering.

Immigration revealed the most obnoxious male I've ever seen, haranguing a British female lass and threatening to not letting her leave the country for some reason that was not clear, it seemed that the exercise was being done purely because he had the authority and was taking some delight in humiliating the girl, after a flood of tears on her part he let her and boyfriend through. The length of time it went on for you just wanted to throttle the b........
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 09:39
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Yes, but I've seen awful experiences in lots of places. I was harangued by the customs official at Adelaide (2006) for committing the international crime of having an unopened pack of cigarettes in my pocket in addition to the carton of 200 that I'd purchased in duty free. And don't get me started about the behaviour of the immigration official at Dulles (2007) towards my colleague whose surname happened to be Hussein (his father was a Turkish Cypriot). In my experience most customs/immigration staff are complete A-holes - I think it's a mandatory requirement at the recruitment stage!

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 12:25
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It´s not about covering your head, it´s about chopping other peoples´ heads off, which is what her homies did when they weren´t raping slave girls or fighting the government. Homies whom she deliberately chose to join and go live with. Until she found out they were losing, that´s when she figured it would be nice to return to british council housing paid for by dhimmies. Who needs consequences anyway. They´re only for infidels, not for the master folks. Now where´s her free lunch, pronto.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 14:08
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
I gather from her fellow apprentices that in the evenings she wears fashionable clothes and immaculately elaborate make up, but she prefers not to when at work
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Hypocrisy....or what ???!
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 15:08
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Originally Posted by Planemike View Post
Hypocrisy....or what ???!
Why is it hypocrisy? She's not wearing it for religious reasons, it's just a personal choice. I wear a suit to work, but never wear a suit to a pub or flying club - does that make me a hypocrite too?

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 16:09
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I am sure I do not need to explain it to you.......!! No, in terms of what you wear your are not a hypocrite...
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 16:16
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Originally Posted by PDR1 View Post
Why is it hypocrisy? She's not wearing it for religious reasons, it's just a personal choice. I wear a suit to work, but never wear a suit to a pub or flying club - does that make me a hypocrite too?

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I’m not sure if you’re trying to be an apologist for a particular group or just enjoying playing devils advocate, but there’s a massive difference between having the freedom to dress a certain way or having a specific type of clothing imposed upon you without choice. Your colleague has the prerogative to dress exactly how she likes. She may get occasional comments but she will never be rounded up in the U.K. and stoned and beaten for her attire. She is lucky she has the personal choice to do this - millions of women - and many men - don’t.

Your reply almost suggests that it’s a privilege and rather liberating for women to wear a hijab as it frees them from the ‘rather tiresome effort’ of choosing clothes and wearing makeup. I’m sure there a great many subjugated people who would love to have that dilemma but are forbidden. We all use clothes as a way of either defining ourselves or expressing our individuality. Any dogma that suppresses that liberty should be viewed with great mistrust.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 16:40
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Explained better than I could have put it.....!! In some ways I would equate it to wearing a crucifix or a turban. It is a statement beyond yourself....
Gareth Southgate, on the other hand, wearing a waistcoat was purely a statement about himself...I am sure it did wonders for the sales of waistcoats...!!!

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 19:06
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So she wears a face covering to save time doing makeup? What a bizarre and far fetched load of codswallop!
Makeup is not mandatory - and plenty of women wear none, and get away with it too.
She must be one ugly biatch if she thinks she’s doing the rest of you a favor by wearing a face mask to work.
Does she have chronic severe acne? Or leprosy?
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 00:05
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You just could not make that up killaroo ! 🤪
Desperate try indeed !!
One of the best I have heard albeit !!

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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 04:05
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In my experience most customs/immigration staff are complete A-holes - I think it's a mandatory requirement at the recruitment stage
Must admit the only country, besides the Doha event, I've visited where the immigration/customs folk were, to put it politely, some what dour has been the US, but even they can show a brighter side. Flew into the US a month after 9/11 fully expecting a right going over, but was amazed at the most cordial welcome and even smiles. Still haven't worked out the psychology behind it.

Another experience was flying out of Gatwick for the US, was at the time the IRA lobbed bombs in Fleet Street and the terminal was full of chaps with heavy weaponry patrolling. Chap at immigration was stern and most thorough, asking all the questions in the world. When finished and handing back the documents he asked do you know so and so, which I did as we had served together, he passed his business card said to to tell the chap he's a &^*$#. Apparently they had been mates in the UK military when &^*$# had been on exchange, I duly passed the business card and message on when I next saw him, received with much guffaws.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 04:23
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Adolf Hitlers father was a customs man.
Never forget that.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 10:47
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Came to me in a flash last night just as I was brushiing my teeth before bed !!
Used to be a guy in my town, away back in the '60's, who turned up to work dressed in a Klan Outfit, pointy hat and all.
Same thing, he had no affiliation, but it saved him from picking out clothes and brushing his hair for going in to the office.
In the pub of an evening, he would be seen sporting a crisp pair of Chinos and a snappy Ben Sherman !
Maybe something in PDRs tale after all 🤪

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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 12:24
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What was started as a thread 'discussing' the merits, or otherwise , of the exclusion of an erstwhile British citizen from being judged by her peers, has, unsurprisingly, deteriorated into some sort of xenophobic fashion rant.
One of the common criteria raised by the 'let her rot' mob, is the behaviour of her chosen colleagues. Horritic, indeed and a process vividly described by Russell Braddon et al and little different from the vastly more numerous versions practiced in our 'civilised' continent.
But history is only partially applied by bigots.

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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 15:31
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"history is written by the victors, which is why the pages of French history books are largely blank..."

[quote from the hilarious patter of one of the Yeomen tour guides at the Tower of London - you can find it on youtube]

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