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Ok so you have a sniffle

Old 11th Feb 2019, 18:52
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Ok so you have a sniffle

What do you do? Assuming you do not have BUPA, Private medical or company plan ....
Go to A&E and after a 6he wait you are not urgent go home?
Go to get a appt with your Doctor? We can give you 10 days time ...by which you are well or dead?
Call 101 and after a 30 minute telephone consultation advised to go to your pharmacist?
Go to your Pharmist and get a pack of expensive Paraetamol?
Or man up go to the pub and phone in sick tomorriw?

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 19:13
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash View Post
What do you do? Assuming you do not have BUPA, CSMA Private medical or company plan ....
Go to A&E and after a 6he wait you are not urgent go home?
Go to get a appt with your Doctor? We can give you 10 days time ...by which you are well or dead?
Call 101 and after a 30 minute telephone consultation advised to go to your pharmacist?
Go to your Pharmist and get a pack of expensive Paraetamol?
Or man up go to the pub and phone in sick tomorriw?
If you have a sniffle, stay in the warm and give your body a chance to recover on it's own. If you have a flu, likewise, but for longer. If you want paracetamol go to the supermarket and get it at a fraction of the cost from a pharmacist.

What you don't do is waste the NHS time at A&E or the doctor's surgery, and certainly don't go into the office and spread your germs to other (healthy) colleagues.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 19:25
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Our GP works Tuesdays.

More than 10 days for an appointment BUT . . . The secret list:

Go to the surgery before 0830 or 1400. First come first served and you get an appointment. In my case, almost immediate chest infection in Monday, pain in throat. Tuesday backing spasm cough. Wheezing over night and again Wednesday. Got an appointment Thursday with confirmed congestion in left lung and prescribed antibiotics. After 7 days cough almost gone and breathing almost free. By the Saturday clear but completely sacked doing anything vaguely active. Essentially no temperature control.

One tip, having gobbed up a load of phlegm I took a pic that I could show the Doc.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 19:48
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Warm milk, honey, cinnamon and lots, and lots of cognac. Doesn't cure anything, but makes you feel better, and better, and better, and ...
I also have a recipe for next morning's hangover. Some other time.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 20:06
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Remember, medical research has indicated that the pain associated with childbirth is approaching the lower threshold of that experienced with a man-cold.
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 20:15
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Just crack on like us wimmin do.
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Change to a better brand of coke.....
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 21:09
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I go to the Doc. I get seen on the day, every time. As does everyone else who rocks up on the day. And he's a one-man-band.

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Old 11th Feb 2019, 23:49
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I get up and bring the kids to school. Then retire to the couch afterwards. Later I carry on because I have no choice.

I remember having the actual flu. The kids bounced on me having giving it to me because they were basically immune.

But I carried on because I had no choice.

It was flu. Not a cold. I've had flu twice. It's like a bad trip. I don't do drugs but you don't need to when you get the flu. Crazy stuff.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:15
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Our GP works Tuesdays.

More than 10 days for an appointment BUT . . . The secret list:

Go to the surgery before 0830 or 1400. First come first served and you get an appointment. In my case, almost immediate chest infection in Monday, pain in throat. Tuesday backing spasm cough. Wheezing over night and again Wednesday. Got an appointment Thursday with confirmed congestion in left lung and prescribed antibiotics. After 7 days cough almost gone and breathing almost free. By the Saturday clear but completely sacked doing anything vaguely active. Essentially no temperature control.

One tip, having gobbed up a load of phlegm I took a pic that I could show the Doc.
Can we take it he / she is being paid on a pro-rata basis for this one day week then ?

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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:34
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Does people actually see a doc for the common cold or flu?
What can they do about it that helps, except muttering sympathetic noises.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:45
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The appointment system at my local health centre seems to be geared to the unemployed or those with a job but who want to be given another sick note. Taking a day off work to ring up at 0830 with the vain hope of getting through, being put on hold for half an hour then getting cut off doesnít make sense for anyone who actually has a job. Or you can go online to book an appointment the week after next. For those of us who fly for a living it means we are effectively shut out of the system. Obviously, we arenít supposed to self medicate but the commercial pressure to do so is there.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 08:50
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Per, a fine line between simple cold or flu and a chest infection. The trick is not going every time nor waiting too long. As Mrs PN was a nurse she is the one who calls the shots.

As an addition, daughter has a Samsung phone with a fitness App. It has a handy little sensor that will display your heart rhythm and measure blood oxygen levels. Mine was at 97. At the Docs the following day it was 98. Now that I am over the infection it is back at 100.

Although only 3% down there was a marked reduction in cognitive function and a definite feeling of dissociation.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:33
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
there was a marked reduction in cognitive function and a definite feeling of dissociation.
You've spent too much time on JB.

Bed, rest, honey and lemon. liquids, a good book, paracetamol, lemsips. Poundstretchers sell paracetamol, lemsips, tea and coffee cheaper than supermarkets.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:40
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Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
You've spent too much time on JB.

Bed, rest, honey and lemon. liquids, a good book, paracetamol, lemsips. Poundstretchers sell paracetamol, lemsips, tea and coffee cheaper than supermarkets.
And Jameson's.

We also had the perfect storm. Wife broke her ankle and couldn't drive. Needed to be fit for an operation last Saturday. Dog needed walking. Poundstretchers too far away.

Fortunately her ankle is almost fixed, the Op was fine, and I am back dog walking.
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The Jameson's did the trick then.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 09:53
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque View Post
The appointment system at my local health centre seems to be geared to the unemployed or those with a job but who want to be given another sick note. Taking a day off work to ring up at 0830 with the vain hope of getting through, being put on hold for half an hour then getting cut off doesn’t make sense for anyone who actually has a job. Or you can go online to book an appointment the week after next. For those of us who fly for a living it means we are effectively shut out of the system. Obviously, we aren’t supposed to self medicate but the commercial pressure to do so is there.
I can understand, from your professional perspective, the concern about self medicating but other occupations which are deemed "safety critical " also face the same dilemma. Along with organisations who use medical appointments as a feature of attendance monitoring, irrespective of the nature of the condition that requires medical intervention, and thence as an excuse for "disciplinary action ".

However, the booking an appointment / seeing a GP system is now common place in medical practices across the UK....illness makes no distinction as to whether you are employed or not. This has been the case for the last three practices I have been registered with, thankfully, the second was only briefly before I relocated because they were truly abysmal. My current one displays prominent signs saying "you will never be refused an appointment with a GP " and even the on line appointment system offers options if you are in urgent need of consultation.

The aspect I object to is the emergence of pharmacists in lieu of seeing a GP, and that's not being disparaging to their profession, it's more to do with the fact they have a decidedly vested commercial interest in selling pharma products, plus, they don't have the comprehensive diagnostic skills of a GP......and then there's the even more limited to non existent diagnostic skills of receptionists......as I kindly pointed out to one at the practice I mentioned when I opined, that, for a glorified data input clerk and typist she seemed remarkably well versed in medicine and I had no idea , until now, that you had to be a qualified doctor as part of her job spec.......madam. was, as they say, "not entirely receptive " to this observation.

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Old 12th Feb 2019, 10:01
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I was in my local A&E last Wednesday from 8.00 pm with my 9 year old son. Regular announcements were being made that the average wait to see a doctor was 6.5 hours, then emphasizing that this was the average and that many people would be a lot longer. At one point there was a 90 minute wait for triage. The nurse looking after my son, who was admitted and went up to a ward at 02.30, said that it wasn't particularly bad, just "somewhere between normal and quite bad".
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 10:38
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I can understand, from your professional perspective, the concern about self medicating but other occupations which are deemed "safety critical " also face the same dilemma.
Yes, I'm not saying otherwise, but I mention it here, on a professional pilots' website... because it is especially relevant to aircrew with respect to their legal responsibilities.

It's impractical for myself and many others to take a number of days off to unsuccessfully attempt to book a "same day" doctor's appointment, when I'm supposed to be at work at 0630, miles from home. I might have what is hopefully only a minor ailment, or possibly not - the CAA doesn't actually deem the individual qualified to decide if he/she is fit to fly.

If I knew I was ill enough not to fly, there would be no problem - I'd obviously self declare illness and my employer would just have to deal with it. The problem comes with a medical problem that the individual isn't so sure about and therefore needs a qualified opinion and possibly medication, which may or may not allow the individual to fly.
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First scant sign... Echinacea tincture. OJ. Tea.
50% of time...no progression to full blown cold.
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