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Old 30th Jan 2019, 06:58
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Laura Plummer back in the UK

What a shame she didn't serve her full sentence. Now she'll no doubt be on "Good Morning" to moan about her treatment in Egypt.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...laura-plummer/
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 07:12
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Given that we are a little more sophisticated in Europe about legitimate painkillers, I do have some sympathy for this lady assuming she was genuinely wishing to aid her partner.

Other Arab countries have similar bans for no obvious reason and many third world countries have strange laws that we should abide by when there but why would you ban a medicine that alleviates pain? We have even managed to permit CBD in the UK for specific purposes.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 07:16
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Agree with Espada re "their country, their laws". Her initial moaning both annoyed and amused me. She said, when announcing her impending release that she "would never set foot in an airport again". Shortly after that, she flew from Egypt to London!
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:34
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Still unsure as to how she managed to get hold of such a large quantity of a prescription only drug (290 x Tramadol) in order to take it to Egypt in the first place...
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:48
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Originally Posted by Espada III View Post
Given that we are a little more sophisticated in Europe about legitimate painkillers, I do have some sympathy for this lady assuming she was genuinely wishing to aid her partner.

Other Arab countries have similar bans for no obvious reason and many third world countries have strange laws that we should abide by when there but why would you ban a medicine that alleviates pain? We have even managed to permit CBD in the UK for specific purposes.
i canít say I blame them. Being excessively liberal with opiates is how the US has ended up in its current mess around heroin. Opiates are also an awful treatment for chronic pain and many a middle class professional has been turned into an addict by a well meaning health professional looking for an easy fix

iíd also suggest that trying to bring 290 tramadol tablets into a country like the UK/Australia would raise eyebrows significantly and would likely be illegal without an import permit

added to the fact that she presumably obtained these through nefarious channels- either the black market or possibly getting them prescribed to herself illegitimately, and I personally thing the Egyptians are spot on with this whole escapade
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:49
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Tramadol is a controlled drug in the UK. How did she manage to stockpile almost 300 pills? No doubt the NHS paid for those pills.
If she didn't need them then she should not have been given repeat prescription to get more for her boyfriend
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:50
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Initially I suspected that she was selling the tramadol, but a Dr. friend pointed out that she may well have been providing for one person.

Tramadol comes in 50mg tablets, which may be prescribed in severe pain cases at a rate of three tablets three times a day. So 290 would last 32 days, say a month's supply.

If you have a spare half an hour look up the restrictions on pharmaceutical drugs into Dubai and see how easy it would be to get caught there, even in transit. Many countries do not even publish their lists of restricted drugs in easily accessible places, so the first thing you know is that you are caught.

Not defending anyone here, but you do need to be well up on what you have been prescribed before traveling to certain countries. A doctors prescription will not prove innocence in some cases as the Dubai list shows.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 12:30
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She said it was a bit of a Headache and a Pain in the A** being stuck there for so long........................

Too soon ?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 13:07
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When in Rome ???

M.E countries are notorious for their restrictions on certain 'drugs'. You can buy antibiotics rigjht over the counter, but anything opiod based is banned outright.

Strange for countries which rely on the production of poppies, and their derivatives, for export .. but there you go.

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Plummer who?

[QUOTEBeing excessively liberal with opiates is how the US has ended up in its current mess around heroin][/QUOTE]

Don't see a firm connection there. There is over-prescribing in the prescription sector but the heroin problem (aside from the heroin use itself) is the cutting with Fentanyl and Carfentanyl.
(Carfentanil or carfentanyl is an analog of the synthetic opioid analgesic fentanyl. A unit of carfentanil is 100 times as potent as the same amount of fentanyl, 5,000 times as potent as a unit of heroin and 10,000 times as potent as a unit of morphine)
The mess is that people are dropping like flies from this poisonous additive.
And around 90% of it comes from China, in the mail, FedEx, UPS and the like.
China doing precious little to stop the exporting or manufacturing, or even put a tiny dent in it..
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Instead of getting off the aircraft and getting to Good Morning Britain for a 'soft' grilling from Piers Morgan before going home to her nearest and dearest, Perhaps HM Customs and Excise and the NHS would have wanted the first interview
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 17:57
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Originally Posted by Kiltrash View Post
Instead of getting off the aircraft and getting to Good Morning Britain for a 'soft' grilling from Piers Morgan before going Ithome to her nearest and dearest, Perhaps HM Customs and Excise and the NHS would have wanted the first interview
Is it illegal to take drugs that are available on prescription out of the country ?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 18:41
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I haven't seen much evidence of her loving caring boyfriend since she was slammed up. Maybe he didn't need her any more.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 18:45
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Is it illegal to take drugs that are available on prescription out of the country ?
No, but you are advised to get a statement from your GP confirming it prescribed and necessary.

It is not just the ME or in the same way. Mrs PN forgot her prescription medicines. The pharmacist in Spain replaced them.

I needed something normally on prescription. The pharmacist in Dutch Antilles also provided it over the counter.

Black magic, the moment I pressed send an advert for that medicine, at lower strength, appeared on TV.
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I’ve just been on a P & O cruise. Bit like an old folks home outing. There must have been tons of very toxic drugs shipped aboard to service that lot!
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 02:56
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver View Post
I haven't seen much evidence of her loving caring boyfriend since she was slammed up. Maybe he didn't need her any more.
Thought the same thing, was he not already married?
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Plummer who?

[QUOTEBeing excessively liberal with opiates is how the US has ended up in its current mess around heroin]
Don't see a firm connection there. There is over-prescribing in the prescription sector but the heroin problem (aside from the heroin use itself) is the cutting with Fentanyl and Carfentanyl.
(Carfentanil or carfentanyl is an analog of the synthetic opioid analgesic fentanyl. A unit of carfentanil is 100 times as potent as the same amount of fentanyl, 5,000 times as potent as a unit of heroin and 10,000 times as potent as a unit of morphine)
The mess is that people are dropping like flies from this poisonous additive.
And around 90% of it comes from China, in the mail, FedEx, UPS and the like.
China doing precious little to stop the exporting or manufacturing, or even put a tiny dent in it..[/QUOTE]

i wasnít talking about the cut with fentanyl side of things, thatís a recent issue and doesnít really bother me

the problem is that dodgy marketing and prescribing of opiates (OxyContin is often the poster girl for this but there are plenty of others) has driven addiction

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622774/
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 19:42
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Iíve just been on a P & O cruise. Bit like an old folks home outing. There must have been tons of very toxic drugs shipped aboard to service that lot!
Try Saga.

In GiB one day this Saga tour came into the hotel for coffee. They didn't seem to knowv whether it was Christmas or Easter or why they were there.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 20:14
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I’ve just been on a P & O cruise. Bit like an old folks home outing.
On the P&O cruise I was on when the weather was rough they put speed bumps in the corridors to slow down the wheelchairs.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 20:29
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You guys are cruel, leave her alone, all she needs is some prescription drugs to calm her nerves and a relaxing holiday somewhere warm and exotic.
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