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Old 28th Jan 2019, 23:07
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He is one of the three. He used to wear an OE cravat with his flying suit.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 05:16
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I was once asked at the Towers ,
"Where were you schooled?"
"Sherborne,Sir "
"Excellent, excellent"

There were three secondary education establishments in that town ,know respectively locally as
"THE School"
"The School"
and
"A School"

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Old 29th Jan 2019, 11:06
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Interesting spread of experiences, watching with interest.

As my eldest is away at one such school now.

Why? I hear you all ask. Well, because the local school is rubbish. I have this on good authority as Mrs Currawong teaches there.

Published government data backs this up.

Fully about half the teaching staff with kids at that level send them elsewhere.

Is it affordable? Not really. But it stops her spending it.

Did I go to such a school? Nope. So I suppose the old boys network starts with him.

Do I want him to follow in my footsteps? I hope this provides him with the tools to not have to. Flying is a mugs game, after all.

For all his arrogance and ignorance he flips burgers for Ronald in his holidays.

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Old 29th Jan 2019, 13:20
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I had a good laugh reading an interview with that creep Paul Gambaccini, whom I know very, very slightly from our time together in Staples High School, Westport, Connecticut. In the interview he boasted of having been our Head Boy, when of course there is no such thing in an American public high school. Nice try, Paul!

Your elite "public school," one that charges fees, is our elite "private school," also one that charges fees. (A US school supported by taxes is called a "public school" since members of the general public attend it, at no extra charge.)

Male private school students in the States are often called "preppies," since the private school usually prepares its students for college (what in the UK is called "university"). Brett Kavanaugh was a preppy from Georgetown Prep (Georgetown Preparatory School); his bad behavior both previous and current was and is classical, not much different from that of some of your public school boys, I suppose.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 13:48
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I just wish that all state schools were good enough that spending on private education was seen as a waste of money.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 14:01
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I just wish that all state schools were good enough that spending on private education was seen as a waste of money.
When I was at secondary-school age, it was the better-off grading-exam (11plus) failures who were sent to private schools.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 14:01
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I just wish that all state schools were good enough that spending on private education was seen as a waste of money.
A whimsical thought if I may say so, but, alas, how else would an elitist cadre be replenished.......

Ironically, I do actually know a retired judge who went to Oxford and he's a really nice person whom you can always engage in serious, and not so serious, debates with.

No surprise to see at number two in the list.....the military.

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Old 29th Jan 2019, 14:42
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I just wish that all state schools were good enough that spending on private education was seen as a waste of money.
Someone I know has just gone through the secondary school process and visited many state, grammar schools and 'independent' schools (as they like to be called these days). Some takeaway points.......it's a real beauty contest to lure in prospective suitable students. That is, the non-academic are left to the 'sausage factories' whilst the academic are courted with glossy brochures and inferences of guaranteed success once on the pathway. The private schools despite their past history are now flourishing businesses that rake in approximately 2million per intake per year with many extra costs, those that board can easily double the amount, and most are registered as a charity. Many in the south of the UK are experiencing huge demand from non-indigenous families whose culture promotes academic excellence, and they're not taking any prisoners! That said, the university grade outcomes between state, grammar and private is apparently so close as to make no difference.

With the gradual rolling out of A.I in many traditional businesses, the 'gravy train' of the past is dissipating and I wonder if these schools are preparing their cohorts for the rapidly changing future, or just keeping with the traditions of the past.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 16:22
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No surprise to see at number two in the list.....the military.
Back in the 60s it was certainly true that a very high proportion of army officers had attended a public school. When I met my future wife in Hong Kong she was a QARANC nursing sister, a working class secondary modern girl who had obtained her commission on the strength of her SRN (and SCM) qualifications. Until we met she had hitherto only come across army officers, and after her first visit to our mess she said she had never come across officers with regional accents before! We did in fact have one OE, a Whirlwind pilot (Old Duffer will remember him) , but the rest of us were mainly ex grammar school boys, one of whom had such a thick Burnley accent that he had been advised to have elocution lessons (he resisted).
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post
Back in the 60s it was certainly true that a very high proportion of army officers had attended a public school. When I met my future wife in Hong Kong she was a QARANC nursing sister, a working class secondary modern girl who had obtained her commission on the strength of her SRN (and SCM) qualifications. Until we met she had hitherto only come across army officers, and after her first visit to our mess she said she had never come across officers with regional accents before! We did in fact have one OE, a Whirlwind pilot (Old Duffer will remember him) , but the rest of us were mainly ex grammar school boys, one of whom had such a thick Burnley accent that he had been advised to have elocution lessons (he resisted).
I knew, in passing, a Liverpudlian whose aspiration was to join the Household mob, as an officer..he was "gently advised " by his Army Cadet unit, that, with an accent as broad as his, his chances were the square root of etc. Met a Devon pilot many years ago at Valley who lobbed in one Saturday.....emerged speaking in a broad Yorkshire accent and friends with everybody.....departed Sunday, with a quintessential "upper clarse " accent along with being arrogant and demanding.
You tell me what induced the transformation overnight....hadn't a clue then or now.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 21:57
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We have a consultant who looks, sounds and acts like how you'd imagine Rees-Mogg's brother would (and Westminster educated), for years I avoided him and even refused to work with him after a slight disagreement.... but fate brought the two of us together for a three week trip into the desert... never have I so badly misjudged a guy... not only did we get on famously- but after three weeks became firm friends - the most hilarious guy with the driest sense of humour on the planet and a serious vodka drinker and skirt chaser - never judge a book by its cover!
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 22:18
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I wish more people could think about what they are saying before typing/talking. I think life would be altogether more pleasant.
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It's Dan who is the OP.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 23:19
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I suppose I must confess that I am an ex grammar-school boy. However I left in the fourth form due to us having been flooded out of our house in the 1968 SE floods. We emigrated to Canada, where my brother had been an RCAF Officer before me, having failed to enter the RAF during the years when one had to do National Service since he did not have an 'O' level in English Grammar, and wasn't interested in being a foot soldier standing between the two side in Cyprus!
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 11:02
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Marlborough had a scholarship scheme for the sons and daughters of the clergy.
The most famous of which pupils went on to become Sir Nigel Gresley, Chief Mechanical Engineer of the London and North Eastern Railway.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 11:08
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Originally Posted by radeng View Post
The most famous of which pupils went on to become Sir Nigel Gresley, Chief Mechanical Engineer of the London and North Eastern Railway.
The most famous is 17th on the list, so actually One of the most.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 12:38
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Is that most famous of sons or daughters of the cloth or most famous of all? We should not forget that 13 VCs, 1GC amd Hoppy Hopgood, 617 Sqn. were Old Marlburians.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 14:37
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I have no idea where I received this idea from, but I thought that Army occifers went to public skool, and RAF occifers went to grammar skool. Is this accurate?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 14:45
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AO, yup, except for those with greasey fingers who used to go to Henlow Tech

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Old 30th Jan 2019, 22:49
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Is that most famous of sons or daughters of the cloth or most famous of all? We should not forget that 13 VCs, 1GC amd Hoppy Hopgood, 617 Sqn. were Old Marlburians.
Ashamed to say I didn't know that, in spite of having taught there (albeit briefly). My favourite Old Marlburian was Sir John Betjeman, even though by his own account he did not enjoy his time there.

Mentioning Betjeman brings me to a bete noire of mine, and that is the reverse snobbery now in force in the world of poetry. I enjoy poetry, and regularly listen to Poetry Please on Radio 4. However there appears to be a Cabal on the station, probably led by Roger McGough, which blocks all poets from broadcasting unless they are from north of Birmingham and working class. Thus we have a constant round of Ian MacMillan, John Cooper Clarke, Benjamin Zephaniah, Jackie Kay and of course our own dear Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy, whose tedious droning voice can put me to sleep in 60 seconds flat. Betjeman wouldn't have a chance of getting on the air these days - posh Southern public schoolboys need not apply!

I have no idea where I received this idea from, but I thought that Army occifers went to public skool, and RAF occifers went to grammar skool. Is this accurate?
A-O see my post #29 above.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 02:48
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.........emerged speaking in a broad Yorkshire accent
So what's wrong with that ?

Remember when Wilfred Pickles ( Give him the money, Mabel ) first read the late evening news ( I think ? ) on the BBC, and ended up by saying "Good Neet". He couldn't have had a worse Press next day if he'd said "Make America Great Again " !
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