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Old 25th Jan 2019, 12:41
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BBC's shaky grasp of Australian history

BBC One O'Clock News announcer Ben Brown has just told us that the grave of "Martin Flinders" has been found near Euston Station. Oh dear.
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They got it right on the 7 o'clock news on Radio 4 - I assume that mistake was on TV News where they are easily confused if there isn't film or at least pictures!
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I believe there was a rumour that his grave had been found at 'St Matthew-in-the-Fields' which no doubt confused them.
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Lucky it wasn't found at Marylebone...
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Lucky it wasn't found at Marylebone...
.. or Mornington Crescent.
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Old 25th Jan 2019, 19:18
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Australian history?

A flock sailed/drifted from somewhere in SE Asia and stumbled on its shores 20 odd thousand years ago. Lived more or less the same life for 19 and half thousand years, or thereabouts, before first a Dutchman and then an Englishman stumbled over their very, very large island. The latter took possession, but the original settlers weren't best pleased with the new arrivals, who used the place to store unwanted elements from their home country. Not a lot happened for a couple hundred years, apart from various explores meeting an untimely end courtesy of Australia's rather vicious nature and wildlife. Became rather good at, and obsessed with, sports - including the sport of knocking the shyte out of each other on Friday nights. Had a foreigner build their most famous icon and is mainly known for being the destination of choice for gap year students and storing boat refugees on an island thousand of kilometres away.
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Australian history?

A flock sailed/drifted from somewhere in SE Asia and stumbled on its shores 20 odd thousand years ago. Lived more or less the same life for 19 and half thousand years, or thereabouts, before first a Dutchman and then an Englishman stumbled over their very, very large island. The latter took possession, but the original settlers weren't best pleased with the new arrivals, who used the place to store unwanted elements from their home country. Not a lot happened for a couple hundred years, apart from various explores meeting an untimely end courtesy of Australia's rather vicious nature and wildlife. Became rather good at, and obsessed with, sports - including the sport of knocking the shyte out of each other on Friday nights. Had a foreigner build their most famous icon and is mainly known for being the destination of choice for gap year students and storing boat refugees on an island thousand of kilometres away.
65,000 years. https://www.smh.com.au/technology/ab...19-gxe3qy.html
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.. or Mornington Crescent.
Nah! If it was anything Ozzie it would be Earls Court.
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45 degrees where my relatives (not rellies, please!) live near Adelaide. They have finally given up saying how great it is to live in a sunny climate and the only topic of conversation is how to stay cool. The country is in the grip of a record drought, farmers further north are shooting emaciated camels and kangaroos which are invading farms in search of food and water, and fruit bats are dropping out of the trees.

As the old QANTAS ad used to have it - come to the lucky country!
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There was an article earlier this week about a rather unpleasant discovery of 20 odd wild horses dead from dehydration near Alice Springs. The local source had just dried up, pictures of dead horses lying in what obviously used to be a water hole. The drought has been going on for a very long time, yet it was only a couple of months ago that I was on a business trip to Queensland and we almost got cut off by a river bursting it's banks.

With all the discussion about what Australia day actually means to various groups, I was listening to one rather passionate protestor going on about how the date actually marks the invasion of the continent by the British (although it appears the Dutch actually got there first and decided it wasn't worth the bother). The emphasis was on how the white man came here and took the land from the previous tenants etc. etc.

What seemed ironic to me at the time was that the protestor in question appeared to be of southern European stock, possibly Mediterranean. If we are going to talk about someone's ancestors moving into a new domain and giving the locals a hard time, then you could well start with the Romans who seemed to have quite a significant empire at one point. In fact I am pretty sure that almost every civilisation on the planet has oppressed someone at some point if you go far enough back.

But of course that sort of logic doesn't meet the acceptability criteria these days.

Cue comments about "what have the Romans ever done for us...."

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Old 26th Jan 2019, 01:39
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Unless you live in Africa everyone's an immigrant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent..._modern_humans
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When the Europeans arrived to settle in 1788, they found the following results of 50,000 years of indigenous occupation:

Architecture: an occasional bark hut. No permanent settlements
Agriculture: none
Music: drone of a didgeridoo
Art: spit outlines of hands, some dot paintings of a lizard
Science: none
Inventions: boomerang, but the Gyppos had them centuries before too
Fashion: nakedness, with an occasional animal skin
Writings: none

So, everybody should be celebrating the arrival of civilisation. Even if it was the Poms.
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Old 26th Jan 2019, 19:49
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Architecture: an occasional bark hut. No permanent settlements
Agriculture: none
Music: drone of a didgeridoo
Art: spit outlines of hands, some dot paintings of a lizard
Science: none
Inventions: boomerang, but the Gyppos had them centuries before too
Fashion: nakedness, with an occasional animal skin
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But it had worked for 50,000-65,000 years. Come back to me when European 'civilisation' has done the same.
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But it had worked for 50,000-65,000 years. Come back to me when European 'civilisation' has done the same.
European 'civilisation'? Now that's a good idea.
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If Australia was first invaded by foreigners about 65,000 years ago, I imagine that John Humphrys was there to cover the story.
I bet he made them join the Labour Party before they landed.
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Modern day kangaroos have survived in Australia for > 100,000 years.
This is seldom considered to be or referred to as a "culture".
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Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie View Post
When the Europeans arrived to settle in 1788, they found the following results of 50,000 years of indigenous occupation:

Architecture: an occasional bark hut. No permanent settlements
Agriculture: none
Music: drone of a didgeridoo
Art: spit outlines of hands, some dot paintings of a lizard
Science: none
Inventions: boomerang, but the Gyppos had them centuries before too
Fashion: nakedness, with an occasional animal skin
Writings: none

So, everybody should be celebrating the arrival of civilisation. Even if it was the Poms.
Music: Never got round to making drums
Inventions: Spear thrower, but never Bow & arrows
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But it had worked for 50,000-65,000 years. Come back to me when European 'civilisation' has done the same.
If it is such a good way to live, why do their descendants want to live in towns and cities and have the dole and phones and booze and all that other nastiness that comes with The Invasion?

They can have land rights, go out and park themselves in the GAFA, but stay there, naked, and don't demand that electricity be connected and free houses be built and jobs be created.
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Let's not get bogged down in petty little details, we're not really debating anything important
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but stay there, naked, and don't demand that electricity be connected and free houses be built and jobs be created
I'm told there is one such group, living the millennia old life style, and their only concession to modernity is to allow some person to live on site in a caravan (medical operative I assume).
Fashion: nakedness, with an occasional animal skin
Fact is their genetic makeup has found that they are rather immune to changes in temperature, they were known to sleep comfortably in snow drifts naked.
Music: Never got round to making drums
But they do make great music, and their art, dot paintings, is something to behold. A canvas is a bit more expressive than a rough slab of stone cave wall.


And how about this for our National Anthem, rather than "Girt by sea"?

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