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Are Her Fears Legitimate?

Old 12th Jan 2019, 16:49
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BRAVO CANADA
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 19:24
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
And to think that Saudi chaired an influential panel of the UN Human Rights Council.

The lass had a tourist visa for Australia as that was the only country she could find that permitted a online application.

The mistake that she made on her Visa was that she didn't claim to be an "Au Pair' and appeal directly to Peter Dutton....
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 21:12
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Quote: "The mistake that she made on her Visa was that she didn't claim to be an "Au Pair' and appeal directly to Peter Dutton...".

Ha ha hah.......very good!!
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 21:47
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Sorry, but as a Canadian, the Govt minister's quote on arrival that 'she is now off to her new home' really rankles.

What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.

With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.

Political opportunism at its very worst.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 22:10
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Originally Posted by er340790 View Post
once she ventures outside and experiences -35c
Canada is a big place. It doesn't get that cold at Tofino for example.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 22:30
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New home? Perhaps a few safe houses while things get sorted.
Free education? She's an adult. Perhaps some support there but very doubtful "free".
Then the regular refugee settlement process, and it's no cakewalk.

If I was involved - there would be some serious attention paid to any new visitors from SA trying to enter the country for a good while.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 22:59
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Originally Posted by er340790 View Post
Sorry, but as a Canadian, the Govt minister's quote on arrival that 'she is now off to her new home' really rankles.

What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.

With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.

Political opportunism at its very worst.
Yes. That is what the Oz govt. was making a point of avoiding.

You would have to think that Canada's recent run-in with KSA factored heavily in this rushed decision.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 23:17
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We tend not to play political games or play act on the world ego stage, like some.
I'm fairly happy that Canada quickly (not rushed) responded to the UN request to resolve what was an apparently urgent and likely dangerous situation.
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Old 12th Jan 2019, 23:58
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Why Canada & not Australia?

Probably not conspiracy or politics but simply down to different procedures in processing refugee applications.

Where possible, Australia runs health, security, etc checks prior to accepting refugee applicants

Canadian procedures permit these checks to be run after arrival

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Old 13th Jan 2019, 01:01
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
I'm fairly happy that Canada quickly (not rushed) responded to the UN request to resolve what was an apparently urgent and likely dangerous situation.
I'm happy too.
But I doubt that, once it attracted world attention and UNCHR attention, that it was either urgent or dangerous any longer.
If it was processed in less time than normal then it WAS rushed. How many immigrants get there approval in 24 hours?

Despite anything that Thailand may have done initially, they were unlikely to allow anything too controversial to occur once the matter was in the world spotlight. And they didn't.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 01:31
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Lots of things to consider.
Thai military government since 2014 after a coup d'état.
Thailand not particularly known for its human rights record.
Thailand's rushed, first knee-jerk decision was to send her (an adult) back to her family then in Kuwait.
Just who was it that seized her passport on arrival at BKK?
Father and brother hightailed it to Thailand for a reason, one she was very fearful of.

If it was processed in less time than normal then it WAS rushed
For many years I was an Expeditor for a major carrier and then ran the department for the airline's system.
Expediting is not the same as rushing.

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Old 13th Jan 2019, 02:01
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For many years I was an Expeditor for a major carrier and then ran the department for the airline's system.
Expediting is not the same as rushing.
If you're talking about a parcel delivery, maybe.
Otherwise, I don't know or care about the difference.

But, in plain English, if the processing, if it was carried out at all, if it was completed in a time frame substantially less than normally taken, can accurately be called "rushed".

Australia, at the very least, went through the pretence of avoiding according "special" processing status to the lady.
Nor did we need to get the Prime Minister publicly involved. And I doubt that we'd have had our Minister for Foreign Affairs greet her on arrival.

If that wasn't blatant politicising then I don't know what it was.
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Old 13th Jan 2019, 02:29
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Think you're missing or ignoring the critical points.
But yes the YYZ meet and greet thing was silly....had to have been handled....given the media interest.......but could have been done better.

(the job has nothing to do with parcels)
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