Are Her Fears Legitimate?
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: adelaide australia
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Originally Posted by megan
And to think that Saudi chaired an influential panel of the UN Human Rights Council.
The lass had a tourist visa for Australia as that was the only country she could find that permitted a online application.
The lass had a tourist visa for Australia as that was the only country she could find that permitted a online application.
The mistake that she made on her Visa was that she didn't claim to be an "Au Pair' and appeal directly to Peter Dutton....
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Canadian Shield
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Sorry, but as a Canadian, the Govt minister's quote on arrival that 'she is now off to her new home' really rankles.
What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.
With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.
Political opportunism at its very worst.
What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.
With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.
Political opportunism at its very worst.
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: apogee
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New home? Perhaps a few safe houses while things get sorted.
Free education? She's an adult. Perhaps some support there but very doubtful "free".
Then the regular refugee settlement process, and it's no cakewalk.
If I was involved - there would be some serious attention paid to any new visitors from SA trying to enter the country for a good while.
Free education? She's an adult. Perhaps some support there but very doubtful "free".
Then the regular refugee settlement process, and it's no cakewalk.
If I was involved - there would be some serious attention paid to any new visitors from SA trying to enter the country for a good while.
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Balikpapan, INDONESIA
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Originally Posted by er340790
Sorry, but as a Canadian, the Govt minister's quote on arrival that 'she is now off to her new home' really rankles.
What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.
With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.
Political opportunism at its very worst.
What it says in effect is that any disgruntled photogenic lass from SA who is twitter savvy can now claim to have rejected Islam and be flown round the world at our expense, given a new home and free education. This in a country where millions cannot afford their own homes or higher education. It also says nothing to all those poor buggers waiting 7-8 years for genuine family reunification / immigration clearance.
With my cynical hat on, I bet once she ventures outside and experiences -35c, she'll soon be pining for the Arabian deserts.
Political opportunism at its very worst.
You would have to think that Canada's recent run-in with KSA factored heavily in this rushed decision.
Join Date: Nov 2013
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We tend not to play political games or play act on the world ego stage, like some.
I'm fairly happy that Canada quickly (not rushed) responded to the UN request to resolve what was an apparently urgent and likely dangerous situation.
I'm fairly happy that Canada quickly (not rushed) responded to the UN request to resolve what was an apparently urgent and likely dangerous situation.
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Canberra
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Why Canada & not Australia?
Probably not conspiracy or politics but simply down to different procedures in processing refugee applications.
Where possible, Australia runs health, security, etc checks prior to accepting refugee applicants
Canadian procedures permit these checks to be run after arrival
Probably not conspiracy or politics but simply down to different procedures in processing refugee applications.
Where possible, Australia runs health, security, etc checks prior to accepting refugee applicants
Canadian procedures permit these checks to be run after arrival
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Originally Posted by meadowrun
I'm fairly happy that Canada quickly (not rushed) responded to the UN request to resolve what was an apparently urgent and likely dangerous situation.
But I doubt that, once it attracted world attention and UNCHR attention, that it was either urgent or dangerous any longer.
If it was processed in less time than normal then it WAS rushed. How many immigrants get there approval in 24 hours?
Despite anything that Thailand may have done initially, they were unlikely to allow anything too controversial to occur once the matter was in the world spotlight. And they didn't.
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Lots of things to consider.
Thai military government since 2014 after a coup d'état.
Thailand not particularly known for its human rights record.
Thailand's rushed, first knee-jerk decision was to send her (an adult) back to her family then in Kuwait.
Just who was it that seized her passport on arrival at BKK?
Father and brother hightailed it to Thailand for a reason, one she was very fearful of.
For many years I was an Expeditor for a major carrier and then ran the department for the airline's system.
Expediting is not the same as rushing.
Thai military government since 2014 after a coup d'état.
Thailand not particularly known for its human rights record.
Thailand's rushed, first knee-jerk decision was to send her (an adult) back to her family then in Kuwait.
Just who was it that seized her passport on arrival at BKK?
Father and brother hightailed it to Thailand for a reason, one she was very fearful of.
If it was processed in less time than normal then it WAS rushed
Expediting is not the same as rushing.
Last edited by meadowrun; 13th Jan 2019 at 02:44.
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Originally Posted by meadowrun
For many years I was an Expeditor for a major carrier and then ran the department for the airline's system.
Expediting is not the same as rushing.
Expediting is not the same as rushing.
Otherwise, I don't know or care about the difference.
But, in plain English, if the processing, if it was carried out at all, if it was completed in a time frame substantially less than normally taken, can accurately be called "rushed".
Australia, at the very least, went through the pretence of avoiding according "special" processing status to the lady.
Nor did we need to get the Prime Minister publicly involved. And I doubt that we'd have had our Minister for Foreign Affairs greet her on arrival.
If that wasn't blatant politicising then I don't know what it was.
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: apogee
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Think you're missing or ignoring the critical points.
But yes the YYZ meet and greet thing was silly....had to have been handled....given the media interest.......but could have been done better.
(the job has nothing to do with parcels)
But yes the YYZ meet and greet thing was silly....had to have been handled....given the media interest.......but could have been done better.
(the job has nothing to do with parcels)
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