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Old 15th Apr 2019, 18:41
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I can remember playing around railway lines as I was a kid, putting pennies on the line so the train would flatten them (dangerous as hell, and not advisable). The "singing" noise from the rails when there was a distant train approaching was very clear, and loud enough to give plenty of warning to anyone nearby, let alone some insane girls sitting between the rails.
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 18:54
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You need to visit Germany. Welded rails, so no clickety-clack, and the ICE that can run past a platform doing over 100 mph. (There's a broad white stripe on the edge of the platform, meant to keep you far enough away from the edge that the draft of the passing train does not pull you off your feet and into the train. Not onto the train, just into it enough to rearrange you a bit.)

You can be standing there chatting, waiting for the regional service to Bremen or Hannover, when seemingly out of nowhere this light gray apparition comes flashing past with very little warning, fast and quiet. You would never hear that thing soon enough to get out of its way, believe me.

One day I was waiting for the train to Bremen, along with a group of young women, when the regional service to Hannover stopped across from us, discharged its passengers, and went on its way. Left behind was Vicky Pollard's German sister, who greeted her pals on our side by asking who had a light. Then she crossed the tracks, got her fag fired up, and crossed back the other way. Three tracks in all, and regular ICE service passing through the village on the way to bigger places. A very strong candidate for a Darwin Award that one, when awards are handed out rather often here.
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 21:59
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In South Carolina there was a scheduled film shoot involving a bed on a railway bridge. The crew made arrangements with the railway and had to be off the bridge by 3:00 p.m.. However, they didn't get off the bridge at 3 and stayed on it. Well guess what? A train came along and there was a near disaster but no one was injured.
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 22:01
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Modern trains do not discharge the toilets onto the track.
Do we have any?
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Old 15th Apr 2019, 23:19
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Rotornut,
I think you may have been fed a sanitised version of the South Carolina incident. As I remember, the film company made no arrangement for filming on that bridge, but simply took a chance. The railway (CSX I think) and the unfortunate train crew knew nothing about it until they found themselves on the bridge among a scrambling mass of film people trying to save themselves, and, to their credit, get the bed and other gear away from what would have been a very dangerous place to cause a derailment. One of the stagehands, a young woman WAS killed, but she should not be commemorated with a Darwin, she was sorting out her bosses f**k up, not her own!
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 10:25
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 11:40
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Jay,
Thanks for that. I heard this from a guy who worked in the film business and the story probably was told many times until it got "sanitised" as you said.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 12:37
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Chuks, oddly we do have similar in UK and you are right, at high speed there is little warning but I am sure their must be some noise transmitted ahead by the tracks, speed of sound in dense medium etc.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 12:40
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Film company idiocy!

Found the details in the accident report on NTSB website. Accident report DCA14FR005. 20th February 2014, Actual location was Jessup, Georgia. After a month of trying to obtain permission to film, and being refused, the film company went ahead anyway! Scene was some sort of dream sequence with a couple in a metal framed bed placed across the tracks on the bridge! They had not been filming long when a train arrived. The bed was lifted aside, but fell back under the engine where it was destroyed, the shrapnel from its destruction killed one of the film crew and seriously injured another six. As I said, bosses F**k up, everyone in the pecking order thought the one above them had made the safety arrangements.

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Old 17th Apr 2019, 06:08
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HST trains discharge onto the track, and despite the article in post 146, will continue for a few more years due to delays in introducing the new trains.
it sure is scary at stations like St. Neots, Biggleswade and Stevenage, where trains race through at 125 mph. You often get muppets walking the wrong side of the yellow line wearing backpacks, walking back to traffic, and blaring on their phones, totally oblivious to the class 91bearing down on them with the driver blowing the horn.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 07:04
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Pontius N, as to noise coming from the tracks, I suppose so, but that's about like holding a stick of dynamite to your ear to check if it's lit by listening for the fizzing of the fuse. If you can hear the noise from the track then you are too close for safety.

Here in Germany the platforms are raised about a meter from the level of the track bed so that it's not just a matter of leaping to one side. Then too there is the question of which way to jump if there are three or more tracks.

As I was watching Frl. Pollard and her chums I was thinking, "Okay, so the gene pool will be cleansed, but what about the delays while they scrape her off the track? I want to get to Bremen on time." Oxygen thieves, the lot of them.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 07:18
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Chucks, in this case I don't think platforms were relevant. I know the old goodies and baddies of movie game out ear to track but those were short rails.

We have a high speed track near us, I might give it a try




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Old 17th Apr 2019, 11:20
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Pontius, when you go, let me give you a list of people you can take along, all Darwin candidates, all annoying. It's a long list, but then railway tracks are also long, so that they should all fit.

If you have ever been to a museum dealing with all things Chinese then you may have noticed the sort of thing the Chinese had used as a pillow for sleeping. It was a chunk of hard material shaped somewhat like a section of rail: https://www.google.com/search?q=old-...RJ1oYzz5X6cPM:When the railroads were a new thing in China some Sons of Heaven when to their eternal while using what looked to them like a greatly extended thing one could rest his head upon while sleeping.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 11:25
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Chuks, naturally I would have to stand back, well back, and supervise. I have a little list . . .
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 11:54
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Originally Posted by uffington sb View Post
it sure is scary at stations like St. Neots, Biggleswade and Stevenage, where trains race through at 125 mph. You often get muppets walking the wrong side of the yellow line wearing backpacks, walking back to traffic, and blaring on their phones, totally oblivious to the class 91bearing down on them with the driver blowing the horn.
If railways were invented now, I reckon they'd be forced to have doors at the platform edge, as they now do in some tube lines.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 12:18
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The first time I saw that was in Leningrad, on their underground. The platform doors only open when the train is parked in position.

Most airport shuttle trains seem to be set up that way, probably because they do not have humans at the controls.

I hope it does not become a trend but Darwin has ushers! Every so often someone just minding his or her business waiting for a train gets pushed off the platform onto the tracks. I tend to stay back a little ways.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 13:31
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I guess the problem with closed platforms is the different trains have different door positions.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 13:50
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I guess the problem with closed platforms is the different trains have different door positions.
Yes - not so much of an issue on a self-contained line with uniform rolling stock, but hugely challenging (at best) at a mainline station used by multiple rail companies with goodness knows how many different models of train.
Wouldn't be an issue if they'd introduced the idea 200 years ago (with manually-opening gates, obviously) but then we'd be stuck with some hugely suboptimal door spacing based on the lengths of the first open carriages...
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 13:55
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I have some experience with the US Acela express
high speed trains in heavily treed rural areas along the East Coast. While trespassing along the tracks (historical purposes) all you can hear is a hissing sound from around the bends. That is a signal to immediately clear the tracks and embed yourself in trackside reeds to hide. From experience you have about a half hour to vacate the area before the RR police show up.
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Old 17th Apr 2019, 17:28
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post

I hope it does not become a trend but Darwin has ushers! Every so often someone just minding his or her business waiting for a train gets pushed off the platform onto the tracks. I tend to stay back a little ways.
I think you’re a absolutely right to do so. Ever since I had witnessed, many years ago, an unfortunate innocent woman minding her own business on a station platform being pushed in front of a speeding train by a psychiatric patient, I ensure my family and myself stand well away from the edge.
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