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Old 8th Dec 2018, 16:41
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Social Media Rejection

Just read that about one person in eight has an Instagram account. Blimey : that’s about 800 MILLION accounts worldwide, unless I am much mistaken ! I don’t have one. I don’t have a Facebook account, or a Twitter account or ANY social media account at all. I don’t have a Smartfone. I don’t use LinkdIn or anything like that (I am retired anyway).

I do have a mobile phone but it must be 6 years old now .. and if I had not accidentally lost my previous one I would probably have had to say that my mobile phone was more than 10 years old now !

It gets better .. I have NEVER taken a ‘selfie’ photo either. Just cannot see the point. Even when I go away on holiday, photos taken of anything are very few, if any.

OTOH, I will admit to being fairly addicted to the internet; it is a fantastic resource of information (often useless .. but interesting). And, yes, I use email avidly, mostly to distant family members.

Oddly, perhaps, my background is in IT ! Has it made me unduly wary ? But I left that about 20 years ago for aviation. Perhaps that was my real calling ? Too bloody late now .. !

Am I so unusual or is there a large (silent) majority of folks out there that are more like me ? Is it a youth thing perhaps (I am 73) ?

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Old 8th Dec 2018, 16:46
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Just about the same for me, I am 77.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 16:53
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Originally Posted by spittingimage View Post
Just read that about one person in eight has an Instagram account. Blimey : that’s about 800 MILLION accounts worldwide, unless I am much mistaken ! I don’t have one. I don’t have a Facebook account, or a Twitter account or ANY social media account at all. I don’t have a Smartfone. I don’t use LinkdIn or anything like that (I am retired anyway).



OTOH, I will admit to being fairly addicted to the internet; it is a fantastic resource of information (often useless .. but interesting). And, yes, I use email avidly, mostly to distant family members.



Am I so unusual or is there a large (silent) majority of folks out there that are more like me ?
SI,

Well, there are now at least two of us fitting your description. We may be a rather small club.

I have absolutely no use for a social media account. I stay in touch quite easily with those who matter without one.

My son recently shamed me into getting a smart phone and abandoning my 10 y/o flip phone. I have to admit I enjoy the texting feature, Google maps and the weather radar app. I guess the camera is nice but...meh...

Beyond that, it's just a phone that won't fit in my pocket comfortably.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 16:55
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Ditto for me but I do have a smart phone. Love my iphone7
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 16:58
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I have a Facebook account, but only for business, no personal stuff on it.

OTOH, I use three mobile phone accounts. One is for personal stuff, the other two are dedicated to business projects. Every time I start a new project I get a new SIM for it, and once the job is done and dusted, I cancel the account. If you live in France, Prixtel do great SIM only deals.


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Old 8th Dec 2018, 17:04
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ANY social media account at all
A lot of people call a forum like this "Social Media", in which case we all have one account, at least.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 17:11
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You old git remind me of my great grandparents.
Sticking to Radio and not buying the already color TV at the time
Or the “microwave!?” Why would I ever need that.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 17:24
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I'm of pretty much the same view as the OP. My mobile 'phone is an old Nokia that only gets turned on about once a month or so, and has only ever been used to make 'phone calls. I never send texts or use the camera on it.

I don't do any form of social media other than a couple of internet forums like this one. I just cannot see any merit in making my private life public, for millions of people to see. By the same token I don't like the privacy intrusions by lots of gadgets, either.

I do find the internet a fantastic resource, though, for a whole host of reasons.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 17:26
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My son studied IT at university and I had bought him a computer to support his studies.
When he graduated he returned the computer to me - what in the world was I going to do with it?
Anyway, he fixed me up with a Hotmail account and in due course I discovered PPRuNe.
Some time later my family bought me a mobile 'phone - purely to stay in touch - with a PAYG sim - my expenditure is significantly less than £10 per year, mainly texts.
My current 'phone is still PAYG and is a simple cellphone - not a smartphone - I have no access to 'data'.
I admit that I would quite like the ability to access the internet when out of the house, but I cannot justify the expense for the little benefit that would ensue.
I decided many years ago that Facebook wasn't for me (on security grounds) and I have stuck by that decision.
I admit that my use of PPRuNe (and a couple of other similar 'bulletin board' sites) equates to social media (rater than necessity for communication).
When accessing online news sites I refrain from any links about soaps or other 'reality' television shows (I do not have a television - though I enjoy watching Formula One on my computer).
I have just discovered that I can access 'live' windspeed information from the nearby military barracks weather station (it was formerly an RAF station, currently Royal Artillery - though the regiments have changed over the years).
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 18:41
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I used to use twitter regularly, it was called ASMA in those days, I have a LinkedIn account I also use regularly, every year or so, and Face book rather more often when ever D2 sends an email link.

I occasionally exchange a message with the former editor of the FT, the pink one not the Formby Times where he started work.

OTOH a couple of ex-work colleagues live their lives through FB, not a thought is missed.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 18:59
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No Faecesbroke, Twitty, LinkedIn, Snapchat, Instagram or any other soshul meeja and I’m not yet 60
Former colleague once told me that before I post or allow anything about me to go on the interweb I should first imagine it on a 60ft billboard outside my house. If I wasn’t totally happy about it there then it shouldn’t go online. Sound advice as it turned out.
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 20:49
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And if you block those naughty pictures your users leave big time.

https://www.businessinsider.in/Tumbl...w/67002132.cms
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 21:02
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The big issue for me, and many people I know is that Facebook is often the best way to keep in touch with family and friends who are great (Continent) distances away. Everybody can keep tabs on each other and know things are well. So it is useful. Also through friends of friends I have reconnected with other friends from the past.

However if I lived in the same area as family and friends it boggles my mind why I would need social media and would not hesitate to delete any account.

One thing I don't carry is a smartphone (have a simple GSM only device without even GPRS) and only check FB a few times a week on my laptop to make sure all is OK with everyone...
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Old 8th Dec 2018, 21:17
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I have to admit to having a Facebook and Twitter account. I am not sure how or why I came to have a Twitter account (must bin it!). I never log on to Facebook but may daughter and grand kids are 200 miles away in Liverpool and they all use it, I get emails from Facebook, telling me this one dis this or the other one was at somewhere. Those notifications are enough for me to decide if I should phone to see who is in hospital etc but not enough to persuade me to log on to Facebook and tell the world all about my latest and greatest bowel movement (or whatever).
As for phones, having spent my working life in telecomms, I used to regularly get all superior with my brother and his fancy dan smartphone, claiming mine was better as I could make telephone calls on it and speak to people. Now I have a Samsung and when I go out to photograph aeroplanes or even ships, it is invaluable to see what is coming. Once I see what aircraft is coming, I have another app which tells me whether or not I have seen it previously so I needn't bother taking more photos of it. Talk about useful. I would marry it if I could!
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 02:28
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It is pretty much an age thing.
As a member of a gliding club where the average age is _old_ most members have complete disdain for "Social Media"
Most elderly members have their phone ring (usually a few times before they realise it's their phone that is ringing), then they fumble around to see if they can find it, then they peer at the screen to see who is calling, then they go to answer it by which time whoever was calling has given up and rung off.
At a "certain" age, you think of social media as things to "have" and "Smart" phones as a thing.
Those several generations younger don't.
They have a 'phone which does everything they want it to do, they probably make less voice calls than you do.
communication is done differently now, you ping someone a message, they reply when they have time, you reply when you have time. Both parties can see what the other is currently engaged in but neither expect instant attention (the way you demand with a voice call)
the wee awkward thing in the pocket is not a "phone" as you know it, it's a gateway to all the information the yoof need as and when they want it.
My Phone lets my wife track me when I'm travelling, gives me navigation (which has changed from your day, it's not about getting you there, it's about routing you past traffic, warning you of police, giving you real time shortcuts)
Communication now is about pictures, video, sights and sounds.
By all means revel in not having these things, but you are missing out.
You don't need any of it.
In much the same way you don't need a colour TV.
I had a flight this year where I took off before dawn, people tracked me via my phone / flarm / fr24, some pinged me via Facebook mid flight (easy, if I'm not busy I can ping them back, if I'm busy I ignore it) some were watching on a big screen display in another country and sent pictures (via messenger) of them watching the flight in real time. One called me on a video call when I was particularly quiet and on a fast run in wave, I could talk to him and show him what the wave looked like up ahead while he was in his office in deepest darkest Englandshire, none of it essential. All of it adds.
Like colour adds to TV, volume and depth adds to radio.
ymmv.
But, if lots of people are doing it, and you are not, are you missing something?
You only live once, make the most of it.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 05:20
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AW45: Succinctly put.

I guess it boils down to how much you like, or need, being in touch. Maybe it’s an age thing (though I have a good friend, older than me, who couldn’t agree with you more). If Livingstone & Stanley had smart phones (and I’m sure they would have liked the option during various ordeals) then one of the great adventures/mysteries of the 19th century probably wouldn’t have occurred, or been relegated to a brief burst of FB interest. The point I’m making is that lack of communication can add to the mystery of life, a view that would probably not be shared by the two proponents above, but nonetheless succeeded in intriguing many others. I cannot remember being in possession of a “thing”, the loss or withdrawal of which would produce in me a feeling of isolation and (as I’ve read) instant panic.

However, I recently saw a toddler trying to swipe the pages of a book, so you’re right – you only live once, so make the most of it.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 05:47
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I was just on a trip to Oman with a group of dentists and doctors, when one of them whipped out her smart phone and took a picture of lunch: a huge fish called a King Fish ("Holy mackerel, Andy!") that could easily feed six. "Okay," I thought, "but why?" I guess she picked this practice up from her children. It used to be enough to return and tell about the big fish in Oman; now our powers of description have faded so that we need to substitute an image, while technology has made it very easy to make images.

When we got a new Golf for the daughter there was a little Nokia phone in a niche on the dashboard, still in its box, battery never even inserted, with a VW logo as its screensaver. She didn't want it, because she has an iPhone, so I bought it for €50. I use it to make telephone calls on a PAYG card, but I did get another visitor to do a "selfie" of me in front of Marx's grave in HIghgate Cemetery.

One of the dentists on this trip pulled out his phone to show us stuff every day, when it must have had literally a thousand different clips, images, and what-all ... amazing. I pulled out mine and showed him "me with Karl" That was about it, though. One image of the wife, one each of the kids, and four of an experiment in composition that was not worth taking a proper photo of ... that was it.

St. Jerome in the wilderness, me. Well, it would be if I could figure out how to get pizza delivered. Living on roots and berries ... nah.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 07:22
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I opened a Facebook account many years ago, and never ever posted a word to it. It was acquired by Mme IG who now talks to the world and their dogs.

I am still searching for a way to go "Off Grid" but still retain access to healthcare, but it's not easy. One thinks large comfortable yacht, stock up on consumables, leave port, get out of the shipping lanes, switch the AIS and all other links off, and disappear until you need to make contact.

Perhaps some one here has tried, I'd like to know before I commit.

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Old 9th Dec 2018, 11:57
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As a relatively fit old git in both mind and body (daughters might have another view), I've never objected to worthwhile change, and recognize that as time marches on so do trends, habits and cultures. That said, it's mho that the widespread addiction to the use of mobiles (by all ages) and tablets, and the plethora of mindless dialogue on Facebook is both socially sad and unhealthy. I do have a Facebook account, recently re-activated; but use it very sparingly, probably as more of an obituary thing (sad, but necessary these days), and to keep track of those close to me on their foreign travels. Going about my daily routines, to me the pervasive sight of those about me with their noses glued to their small screens, oblivious to their surroundings and fellow creatures, is increasingly incredulous.

My IT activity involves the widespread use of e-mail, smartphone and internet as 'as 'n when' tools', with occasional excursions into PPRuNe. I carry the mobile with me but use it discretely, exposing it only should someone in my company have a need for snippets of information, or to take a call (which I do in privacy).

All of that aside, there's sod all I can influence (except disallowing the appearance of IT technology at my dining table). So, with this exception, I mostly keep my grumpy opinions muffled!
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 16:49
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I refuse to carry a camera phone or even a smartphone and for years carried around a Nokia 6310i.... I would still carry it around but I stupidly gave it to a friend - when you have no smartphone you truly forget about such things as social media - they simply aren't part of your life. Now have a Nokia 8210 I picked up in a flea market here in Moscow for the same price as a double vodka red bull. When I whip it out (the phone that is) complete with old Nokia ringtone people move away from me in disgust.
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