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Old 9th Dec 2018, 18:47
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Originally Posted by jindabyne View Post
and the plethora of mindless dialogue on Facebook is both socially sad and unhealthy
As opposed to the often seen plethora of mindless dialogue on PPRuNe?
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 19:24
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I've had a Facebook account for about 7 years. It has definitely deteriorated over the years, to the extent I rarely post anything now. It's a shame, I found it pleasant and entertaining to keep in touch with friends who've moved away, all around the country. Unfortunately, I reckon it should be re-named "Crap web links, Political Rants and Dodgy Adverts Book".
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 19:55
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I had a Twitter account since its early days, which I never used and finally nuked this year. I tried Facebook for about six months last year, and found it incredibly annoying - so that went too. The only social media I use now is Instagram, which works for me because a lot of people use it for arty things, showing off their work and so on. I follow some aviation users and architects, a couple of friends... and I don't mind admitting I follow Liz Hurley too.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 20:17
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Originally Posted by bnt View Post
The only social media I use now is Instagram
... ses someone in a post on PPRuNe ... WTF do you think PPRuNe is if it isn't "social media"???
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 20:25
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
... WTF do you think PPRuNe is if it isn't "social media"???
A website like PPRuNe isn't social media in the order of Facebook, Instagram or Twitter because it's mostly devoted to a narrow area of interest vs being all over the place like the actual social media sites.

It's different enough to escape the stigma of the likes of Facebook et al.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 20:54
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
I'm of pretty much the same view as the OP. My mobile 'phone is an old Nokia that only gets turned on about once a month or so, and has only ever been used to make 'phone calls. I never send texts or use the camera on it.

I don't do any form of social media other than a couple of internet forums like this one. I just cannot see any merit in making my private life public, for millions of people to see. By the same token I don't like the privacy intrusions by lots of gadgets, either.

I do find the internet a fantastic resource, though, for a whole host of reasons.

My bold. But you don't have to? I have a Facebook account but I do not post on it, I use it to read a FB site that someone has set up about my infant/primary and senior schools - happy reminiscing if you like.

If you were to look up my FB site profile you would discover that:
My name is Vic Mooseplaster (It isn't)
I was born in 1970 (I wish!)
I was born in Sydney (Warmer than Southern England for sure)
I went to Narkover School (I didn't but perhaps wish I did, look it up if you're interested)

So this way I am not at all worried about the megalith that is Facebook influencing me when it comes to election time because they know nothing about me that is true, neither would any random web surfer find me.

Perhaps it would an interesting thread to start : Fantasy Facebook profiles?

I have a mobile phone but it never rings, my wife says this is because I never give the number out to anyone apart from her. Yours, Vic.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 21:28
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Facebook will know where you live, what web sites you visit, what devices you use to access the web, things like the operating system, screen resolution, etc. They may well know your address, real name, phone number, email address and other details, because they are very, very good at cross-correlating data from the information you've freely (and silently) given them by accessing their website.

Giving them fake data has virtually no impact at all; thousands do this and yet it's a fairly pointless exercise unless you hide your IP address (by using a VPN) and also take precautions to hide details of the device you are using to access their service. This can be done, but I'd guess 99% of people just don't realise how much personal info they are giving away just by accessing a web site so they don't bother. As an example, right now I'm logged on here using a pseudonym, the email address I originally registered when I joined has long since disappeared, yet I know that the forum admins here will know where I live, what my real name is, what sort of device I'm using right now, the browser type, websites I've visited recently that have been captured by tracking cookies, etc, etc. I'm pretty sure that this forum only uses that information to target adverts, but Facebook makes most of its money by correlating masses of personal data and using it to enhance their revenue. It's not clear just who they sell data to, but there are enough questions being asked about their lack of transparency to make me believe that they are far from concerned about privacy.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 21:31
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I have also had a long career in IT (PDP8s anyone?) and I also don't bother with social media with the exception of email.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 21:38
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I think that if you live abroad and to a greater extent are isolated from your original culture and interests, then FB etc are an umbilical cord to your past and a major improvement on years gone by where extortionate phone calls and once weekly newspapers were the umbilical. If you have an interest/hobby or a cause or business, you'd be silly not to use social media, but the often mindless disgorging of daily trivialities speak more of our vacuous lives than anything else.

I haven't partaken in social media, as generally accepted, as I too can see little merit in making my private life public (not that it's so interesting), but I can remember in my 20's wanting people to know all about me, a sort of self advertising or promotion to gain peace, love and happiness ;-) so perhaps if it had been around then maybe I'd be a fan. As mentioned, Instagram seems to be a cool showplace for creative types to showcase their work so that's a game changer for many caught in the claws of powerful gatekeepers.

I know of one person who has an FB account purely to be a voyeur into other people's lives, that he knows and meets/encounters along the way!
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 23:02
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Originally Posted by VP959 View Post
Facebook will know where you live, what web sites you visit, what devices you use to access the web, things like the operating system, screen resolution, etc. They may well know your address, real name, phone number, email address and other details, because they are very, very good at cross-correlating data from the information you've freely (and silently) given them by accessing their website.

Giving them fake data has virtually no impact at all; thousands do this and yet it's a fairly pointless exercise unless you hide your IP address (by using a VPN) and also take precautions to hide details of the device you are using to access their service. This can be done, but I'd guess 99% of people just don't realise how much personal info they are giving away just by accessing a web site so they don't bother. As an example, right now I'm logged on here using a pseudonym, the email address I originally registered when I joined has long since disappeared, yet I know that the forum admins here will know where I live, what my real name is, what sort of device I'm using right now, the browser type, websites I've visited recently that have been captured by tracking cookies, etc, etc. I'm pretty sure that this forum only uses that information to target adverts, but Facebook makes most of its money by correlating masses of personal data and using it to enhance their revenue. It's not clear just who they sell data to, but there are enough questions being asked about their lack of transparency to make me believe that they are far from concerned about privacy.
Interestng. I’ve just visited my Facebook page and there were 4 ads. One for dog food - we don’t have any pets. One for a new flat development in North London - I cant remember the last time I was North of the river let alone in the market to buy a flat. One for some sort of massage therapy on a lilo - what is that all about. The last one was to help me find places where I can ‘gig’ - I can’t play any musical instruments. A very small snapshot I admit but would seem to me that the analytics surrounding all this have some way to go. Vic.
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Old 9th Dec 2018, 23:38
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
would seem to me that the analytics surrounding all this have some way to go. Vic.
It's not much better when they do know about you. Eg, buy a plane ticket to X, and the ads you'll see for the next couple of weeks are people trying to sell you plane tickets to X. Which you blindingly obviously don't need, because you've just bought one.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 00:19
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Love Facebook. There are groups on it tailored to all my interests - aviation, medals, railways and more. There is a group for fans of the three V Bombers and I have great fun winding up the young Vulcan groupies whose only experience of a V Bomber was seeing XH 558 before it was grounded. We also have a family group on whatsapp where we and our 3 children can keep in touch frequently without having to duplicate messages

Eg, buy a plane ticket to X, and the ads you'll see for the next couple of weeks are people trying to sell you plane tickets to X.
Mrs TTN once asked me to order some bras for her on Amazon. For the next couple of weeks my computer was infested with pictures of ladies in bras of every sort. I dont think she ever really believed my explanation of why this was happening!
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 00:26
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Originally Posted by Tankertrashnav View Post

....Mrs TTN once asked me to order some bras for her on Amazon. For the next couple of weeks my computer was infested with pictures of ladies in bras of every sort. I dont think she ever really believed my explanation of why this was happening! ...
Market research?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 08:35
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We also have a family group on whatsapp
I use Whatsapp to keep in touch with several family/friends groups and am encouraging one or two friends who don't use it to do so. Example, arranging for four of us to meet up for pints next week, far easier if all four were on Whatsapp and in a group - one currently not, had some problems setting it up followed by a sense of humour failure!

Not interested in Facebook or anything similar; I used to run the office Twitter account which i found excruciatingly tiresome to use.

Politicians/pundits should stay the **** away from Twitter, all of them look complete arses.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 08:41
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You lot do realise that PPRuNe is a social media site, right?
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 10:12
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Whoops - I apologise - I seem to have wandered into the dinosaur house where there us a certain pride in self-declaring as a dinosaur. I'll be on my way now
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 10:17
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Nemrytter, PPRuNe isn't quite the same as, say, Facebook in that I can pick which bits I want to read and I don't have to scroll through endless photographs of people's lunch, their children, their new guitars/bicycles/clothes and maps of where they've been running today.

I do use Facebook, but it is irritating.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 15:51
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It is blindingly simple to select what you do/don't want to see on facebook.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 16:08
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post


Interestng. Iíve just visited my Facebook page and there were 4 ads. One for dog food - we donít have any pets. One for a new flat development in North London - I cant remember the last time I was North of the river let alone in the market to buy a flat. One for some sort of massage therapy on a lilo - what is that all about. The last one was to help me find places where I can Ďgigí - I canít play any musical instruments. A very small snapshot I admit but would seem to me that the analytics surrounding all this have some way to go. Vic.
It's not wholly about the ads you see or don't see, though, it's all about data collection, the correlation of that (from many sources) into meaningful (and valuable) data sets and then selling that information on. Some may get used for advertising, some may get used to shape things like insurance policies, the bottom line is that we don't have either any control over the correlated data, nor what it gets used for.
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Old 10th Dec 2018, 18:24
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Originally Posted by david1300 View Post
Whoops - I apologise - I seem to have wandered into the dinosaur house where there us a certain pride in self-declaring as a dinosaur. I'll be on my way now
Just try to never forget how very much more dinosaurs know about life than young people do.
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