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Old 6th Dec 2018, 03:20
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Teacher fired for lying to kids: there is no Santa Claus!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46462356
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Failed to mention anything about God, I notice?
I'd like to hear where the teacher's thoughts on religion lie.
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Meanwhile in unzud the kids are left to believe he is maori with a grass skirt and club.
PC gone mad
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109...or-maori-santa
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More to the story?

Firstly, she is a substitute teacher. So I’m not sure ‘fired’ is the right term. She has been told she won’t be used again in the district.

Secondy, someone who can dash the hopes of a class full of Grade 1 pupils is probably not the sort of person who should be teaching them in the first place, regardless of her own personal beliefs.

Thirdly, she may not be quite the innocent victim the article makes her out to be. I think the way she presented herself may turn out to have a bearing on the outcome.

Before you all shout ‘what does an RAF pilot know about teaching kids?’ may I politely point out that I completed a 4 year BSc with Qualified Teacher Status (not a PGCE, four years of teaching training) in Primary Education (ages 7-11) and a few months of supply teaching before I was (thankfully) accepted into the RAF. Long story!

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Came in useful when dealing with aircrew then?
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"Santa Claus himself could not be reached for comment"

Well obviously not, he's far too busy this time of year to talk to the media.
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I see she also debunked the tooth fairy.

In a full family theatre show an 8 yr old was taken on stage. She had just lost a tooth. The comedian asked her if she would put it under her pillow. Then said daddy would put a pound under there or 50p if he was mean as there was no tooth fairy.

There was a collective indrawn gasp and the temperature dropped.
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Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
Failed to mention anything about God, I notice?
I'd like to hear where the teacher's thoughts on religion lie.
Wish teachers would stop the religious brainwashing and teach science instead, although beliefs in various Gods have been good for population control: By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.
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Wish teachers would stop the religious brainwashing and teach science instead, although beliefs in various Gods have been good for population control: By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.
And quite a few has been made thanks to religions. One in particular.
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Originally Posted by Ancient Mariner View Post
And quite a few has been made thanks to religions. One in particular.
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By some estimates 195 million humans have been killed in religious wars, sacrifices, crusades, etc.
Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.
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That's because there are a lot more of them and vastly more efficient ways of killing them.
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Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.
So it is okay to continue religious wars and killings ?
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So it is okay to continue religious wars and killings ?
Apparently so, if you are in the Middle East.
It seems to be a moral imperative.
Latest shenanigans in Yemen is just one of many. It seem to be something like curling for people in Wisconsin: gives them something to do.
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Posh. That's a pittance compared to the number killed by secularism and atheism in the 20th and 21st centuries. Indeed more people have be killed by secularism and atheism since the dawn of the 20th century than in all the previous centuries of human history combined.
Sorry, but I am struggling to think of even a single war that was CAUSED by atheism.
That atheism was a very significant factor in the implementation of both communist and NAZI doctrine during the 20th century is irrefutable, but as a single causative factor? Sorry, but I just don't see it.
Religion on the other hand, I can think of several examples without even trying.

By definition, any war that is not a religious conflict must be a secular conflict, but I can only reconcile your contention regarding secularism causing conflict in terms of those historic conflicts involved in instituting separation of church and state.
In which case, I would say that the main driver was religion and that those conflicts were / are religious conflicts.

Enlighten me.
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Oh bloody hell - a nice little thread about Father Christmas has been hijacked by those deluded enough that they think they are going to sort out the whole pro/anti religious thing on Jet Blast. We hear the same arguments over and over and over again - about as useful as the US gun control threads and about as likely to change anyone's mind on the subject.

Meanwhile number one son who lives in Delft has sent a me picture of himself dressed up as Zwarte Piet (Black Pete)who is the black assistant of Sinterklaas and arrives with him by boat from Spain each December. Mind you he didn't do the whole blackface thing as that's getting a bit problematic - just a dab or two of camo cream from his army days!

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Saw an item putting the argument where one child got a computer for Xmas where as another just got socks 'n jocks. Disparity in income of the two families being the reason of course, so stop telling the kids it comes from Santa and he's discriminating. New PC item.
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Santa is a ****. I never forgave him for bringing me the wrong coloured bike......Git.
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Santa is a ****. I never forgave him for bringing me the wrong coloured bike......Git.
You think you had problems, Simplythe beast!

Dunno if the link below will work but check out what Kevin Bloody Wilson has to say about Santa!

Warning; naughty words used!!

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