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Old 5th Nov 2018, 07:00
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
There is an initial check based on the weight of the scanned items placed on the 'output' side, and some establishments have CCTV monitoring - which might not catch occasional thefts but will record offenders for susequent monitoring and apprehending.
No scales when you use a hand held scanner.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 07:13
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What I notice though is the lack of human contact. It's a kind of expectation thing. My big concern is that for a lot of older people this is almost the only human contact they have in their daily lives.
I am an 'older' but not a 'lot of'. This contact drives me batty. I need to pay and want to get away from the GU. The checkout assistant is not my new best friend and I don't wish to hear the trials and tribulations on Mrs Xx in the queue ahead.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 07:20
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Originally Posted by clark y View Post
This seems like the other thread on light bulbs.

Just picked up a new car, mid sized Toyota. The owners manual is 724 pages thick and the Nav/Audio manual is another 250 pages.
And the index? Are they lights, lamps or bulbs, or even LED ditto?
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 07:30
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
If you're in the local Co-op, as this incident was, you're desperate. If you're not desperate it can wait until the next time you're going to Tesco.
Ah but that was the whole reason for the shop - paper and milk.

I got the paper and Mrs PN went for the milk and a few other items. Only as the heavy basket had been unloaded and scanned I asked where was the milk. Now having a long queue behind us (and 4 empty self-service tills) the solution is obvious. Mrs PN darts off to get the milk. When she returns I take the rest of the stuff to the car. Some minutes later Mrs PN emerges.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I am an 'older' but not a 'lot of'. This contact drives me batty. I need to pay and want to get away from the GU. The checkout assistant is not my new best friend and I don't wish to hear the trials and tribulations on Mrs Xx in the queue ahead.
I wish they'd all have a "One item, no chit-chat, no messing queue" for those times when shopping is an absolute necessity not a time filler.

Waitrose were rather clever in waiting for all the other chains to highlight all the problems with self service checkouts before introducing theirs. They are not perfect but certainly the slickest and none of this weighing the items nonsense, maybe their customers are more honest in general . WH Smiths are the worst. I often just abandon my shopping and go elsewhere, it takes too long to resolve any problems with their terminals.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 10:37
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I have never used a self-checkout. I have, however, rung the manager of a store from the end of the queue at the only manned check out. Not something that he'd experienced before, I suspect.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 11:22
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I never use self check out. I've got to know several of the check out staff at Tesco and always look for them. some of them are friendly ladies: two often have adjoining tills are the 'checkout chicks' according to them - good looking ladies in their 40s. Nice bit of human interaction: one has a daughter at Oxford university so I ask after her: the other has a 17 year son about to fitted with an implanted defibrillator with radio in it - and I spent the last 11 years of my working life doing systems engineering on such radios. Another is the daughter of a local radio amateur that I know, so I ask after him, too. Being pleasant to them means that will help when necessary.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 12:05
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It's not just the things per se. It's the instructions which are often written using words that ore somewhat out of context. I've (fairly) recently had a new central heating/hot water boiler fitted complete with a wireless controlled timer and thermostat. Reading the "how to programme your new wonder controller" booklet it kept mentioning "comfort times". If only the words were "heating periods" I would have twigged earlier. At the other end of the scale was my Tom-Tom sat-nav. Take out of box, switch on, go.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 12:32
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I'm pretty sure the only reason smartphones took so long to develop is that the Monarch being shown the device could chop off heads.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 13:48
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Originally Posted by ea200 View Post
Push button taps in the toilet where the water pressure is way too high. Strand well back and press button to see if it chucks water all over the floor. Approach cautiously, water stops just as you get there. Try again a bit closer, get water all over trousers. Thrust hips at air dryer which doesn't work. They never do unless it's one of those blade devices and you can't get your trousers in there. You might as well dry your hands on your trousers in the first place.
Hah! A jolly jape in the pub is to go into the gents, splash water on the front of your trousers and then come out exclaiming loudly:

"Is there some kind of knack to these dyson urinals???"



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Old 5th Nov 2018, 13:51
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Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
I'm surprised to hear that the self checkouts in the UK are apparently so unreliable - it seems us backwards Yanks have that pretty much figured out.
Self checkouts work fine in pretty well all the stores I use - it's just the handheld scanner systems (where you scan stuff as you go around) that give trouble IME.

If I have a bottle of wine in my shopping and a member of staff asks be to give proof of age I just do some mental arithmetic...

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Old 5th Nov 2018, 14:10
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Anything IKEA.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 14:20
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Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
Anything IKEA.
Flat pack with exactly the right number of 6mm, 8mm and 10mm screws. Drop one or use the wrong one and an overly long one then breaks the paper.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 15:01
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
I am an 'older' but not a 'lot of'. This contact drives me batty. I need to pay and want to get away from the GU. The checkout assistant is not my new best friend and I don't wish to hear the trials and tribulations on Mrs Xx in the queue ahead.
Given your lack of social empathy, it's more than likely any checkout operator holds similar sentiments regarding your departure from the store.....albeit this could be rapidly expedited if the store were to put out a broadcast.....tannoy would prove a shade too evocative for you I feel..........to the effect pig farming families are welcome and eligible for a 50 % discount on any product they help produce.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Blues&twos View Post
The building where my office is based is only a few years old and has automtic everything. It is incredibly irritating. Especially the automatic taps.
Try rinsing your contact lenses under a tap when you can't control the flow/temperature and when the tap will only come on if you have something very close to the sensor. Rrrggh.
You really shouldn't be doing that:

https://www.epa.gov/dwstandardsregul...contact-lenses
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 16:47
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Originally Posted by vaqueroaero View Post
Just enjoyed the delightful experience of eating breakfast at Orlando International Airport. Take my trash to the trash can and discover that I have to wave my hand over a sensor that in turn will open the door that will allow me to put my trash in the trash can. I'm holding bags in one hand and a trash covered tray in the other, so no free hands, so therefore I can't throw away my trash. Who in their right mind thought this was a great idea? Not to mention the cost of the stupid thing. What's wrong with a large container with a big hole in the top?
Itís only light sensor. It doesnít know a hand from a dildo. Why didnít you just wave your tray at it?
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 17:29
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It's not the checkout operators that bother me (although Lidl's scanners seem to work very much faster than most other stores and not need each item's barcode to be accurately lined up) but the person at the front of the queue. Why on earth do people wait till they've packed every item they've bought before realising that they are going to have to pay? I thought women were supposed to be good at multi-tasking, but it surely can't be hard to get the card or the money ready while they're in the queue, or at least to initiate the paying process, whether card or cash, as soon as the bill appears. That way the packing can be done while the change is counted or the card reader's doing its thing. That's why I go for the self service checkout every time. I don't regard shopping as a social occasion but a neccessity.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 17:31
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Originally Posted by Hydromet View Post
I hate that. I once resorted to calling housekeeping to show me how to drive the same thing, then later, at the same hotel, called them again to run the stupidly complicated bath/shower mixer.

...and heaven is where one sits to watch them.
Oh yes! I'm with you as far as the space shuttle shower operations go in hotels - do I push it, pull it, twist it, pull for water and twist for temperature or the opposite? Do I scald or freeze myself trying to find out? Then of course we have the ones which have a fixed head AND a hand held option, with yet more controls. The extractor fan cord which turns out to be the SOS alarm can be quite embarrassing too...
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 19:50
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It’s only light sensor. It doesn’t know a hand from a dildo.
I know women like that.
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Old 5th Nov 2018, 20:35
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Lidl's scanners seem to work very much faster than most other stores
Lidl and Aldi are the same. You are not supposed to pack your bags on the checkout; that is why the receiving area is so small. The procedure is to place your merchandise back in the trolley and after you have paid take the trollyload to the shelf at the back and pack your bags there.

Too advanced for some people.
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