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Old 4th Dec 2019, 10:08
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Why did your son try to drive from Trafalgar Square to Westminster? It's only a short walk, or one stop on the Tube.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 10:40
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The son of Diane Abbott, the Shadow Home Secretary, has been arrested for biting a police officer on Whitehall on Friday. He was charged in Westminster magistrates court yesterday. Cambridge-educated James was bailed over to appear in Central London magistrates court in February.

The incident happened outside the Foreign Office from where he was sacked from his Rome Embassy job in June. More to follow…

UPDATE: Guido understands Abbott has pulled out of a TV Debate tomorrow. She has been subbed in for by Shadow Policing Minister, Louise Haigh.


No this isn't a made up story.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:10
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Why did your son try to drive from Trafalgar Square to Westminster? It's only a short walk, or one stop on the Tube.
Short answer: His job as a High Court Sheriff. He spends most of his time currently serving Statutory Demands on behalf of HMRC (including the odd MP)
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:32
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:37
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Short answer: His job as a High Court Sheriff. He spends most of his time currently serving Statutory Demands on behalf of HMRC (including the odd MP)
Why did your son try to drive from Trafalgar Square to Westminster? It's only a short walk, or one stop on the Tube.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:45
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The son of Diane Abbott, the Shadow Home Secretary, has been arrested for biting a police officer on Whitehall on Friday. He was charged in Westminster magistrates court yesterday. Cambridge-educated James was bailed over to appear in Central London magistrates court in February.

The incident happened outside the Foreign Office from where he was sacked from his Rome Embassy job in June. More to follow…

UPDATE: Guido understands Abbott has pulled out of a TV Debate tomorrow. She has been subbed in for by Shadow Policing Minister, Louise Haigh.


No this isn't a made up story.
Correct, it isn't a made up story, so jolly well done for bringing the matter to the attention of JB contributors.....

One teensy problem however....he's now an adult and is therefore responsible for his own actions.

However, he's far from being the first offspring of an MP to encounter the law.....let's have a quick think here....Stephen Waterson and an innocent little boy called Alfie seems to have missed your attention and there are plenty more from all political hues.

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Old 4th Dec 2019, 11:47
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Originally Posted by The Nip View Post
The son of Diane Abbott, the Shadow Home Secretary, has been arrested for biting a police officer on Whitehall on Friday. He was charged in Westminster magistrates court yesterday. Cambridge-educated James was bailed over to appear in Central London magistrates court in February.

The incident happened outside the Foreign Office from where he was sacked from his Rome Embassy job in June. More to follow

UPDATE: Guido understands Abbott has pulled out of a TV Debate tomorrow. She has been subbed in for by Shadow Policing Minister, Louise Haigh.


No this isn't a made up story.
So, her son is a bit of an @rse. Doesn't reflect on her ability (or lack of) to be in government and absolutely no reason why she should have to pull out of a TV debate. That said I expect there are some managing Labour's campaign that are pretty happy they've found an reason (excuse) to withdraw her!

This silly incident has nothing to do with UK politics, but somehow typical that Guido should pick it up and run with it.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 12:19
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I have no doubt that if one of Boris Johnson's children got into trouble with the law Jet Blast would be packed with derisory posts.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 12:26
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I have no doubt that if one of Boris Johnson's children got into trouble with the law Jet Blast would be packed with derisory posts.
On the contrary- I and many others would be sympathetic due to the parenting hes had, and surprised he took so long to go off the rails as a result!
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 12:34
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In the meantime..."One thing is certain: Britain’s election will not settle Brexit"

”The pollsters think a Conservative majority more likely. If they are right, Britain will leave the EU at the end of January 2020 and then spend the next several years trying to decide what that means."

https://www.ft.com/content/3a48356e-...4-fbbacad9e7dd
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 12:46
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax View Post
On the contrary- I and many others would be sympathetic due to the parenting hes had, and surprised he took so long to go off the rails as a result!
Don't forget he was allowed to attend Grammar school, despite Labour Policy to abolish them. Policies don't apply to if you are one of the ruling elite.
He then attended Cambridge Uni.
Might be interesting if she was the Home Secretary.
Who would thought that for a parent to have a low opinion of the British Police force, her son would try and eat one. No wonder David Lammy can never find one.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 15:10
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Not his to do this with of course - though Id love to see the family look after grounds and pay the heating bill......

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-give-chequers

Jeremy Corbyn has vowed to give up Chequers for a homeless family if he becomes Prime Minister
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 15:22
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Why did your son try to drive from Trafalgar Square to Westminster? It's only a short walk, or one stop on the Tube.
He has a van which is loaded with High Court documents, plus the tools of his trade (computer, GPS, camera etc)
In the end, he had to follow some diversions via London Bridge, South Bank, Westminster Bridge.
In the past, I have had to do the same journey on foot, following the Remembrance Day service. The same set of roads are closed and, at my age and following 3 hours on your feet to begin with, it is a long slog!
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 15:35
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Not his to do this with of course - though Id love to see the family look after grounds and pay the heating bill......

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-give-chequers

Jeremy Corbyn has vowed to give up Chequers for a homeless family if he becomes Prime Minister
Only if they vote Labour.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 16:12
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The New Statesman, the most left wing and socialist supporting magazine in the UK- is decling to support Labour in the general election......

Their Leader this week.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...eserves-better

......But the essential judgement that must be made is on Mr Corbyn himself. His reluctance to apologise for the anti-Semitism in Labour and to take a stance on Brexit, the biggest issue facing the country, make him unfit to be prime minister.

In response to anti-Semitism, the Equality and Human Rights Commission, a body established by the last Labour government, has launched a formal investigation of a political party for only the second time in its history (the first being the fascist British National Party). The chief rabbi, Ephraim Mirvis, and the Jewish Chronicle have issued unprecedented warnings about Mr Corbyn to the electorate. The Jewish Labour Movement, for the first time in its history, has refused to endorse the party and will only campaign for “exceptional candidates”.

We have no reason to quarrel with their judgement. As Anthony Julius, a senior lawyer and academic, wrote to the historian Richard Evans in an open letter on the New Statesman: “A party that cannot be trusted in relation to Jews cannot be trusted at all.” (Professor Evans subsequently retracted his support for Labour.)

Faced with an unpalatable choice between Mr Johnson or Mr Corbyn as prime minister, some maintain that there is a third way: the Liberal Democrats. But under new leader Jo Swinson, the party has had an uninspiring campaign. Its vow to cancel Brexit by revoking Article 50 has rightly been rejected by even Remainers as illiberal and undemocratic. And though presented with a rare electoral opening, the party of Gladstone, Lloyd George, Keynes and Beveridge has shown little intellectual ambition or dynamism........

Yet for the reasons outlined, we have resolved to endorse no party at this general election. As a publication that is beholden to no party or faction, that defends the intellectual traditions of scepticism, independence of thought, the spirit of criticism and a willingness to debate, we believe that voters deserve better.........

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Old 4th Dec 2019, 21:35
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​​​​​​​It was most amusing to see Boris trying to get in on the mocking of Trump going on with Justin Trudeau and Macron then pretending that he had nothing to do with it. I doubt that Trump will be very happy with his erstwhile best mate though.
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Old 4th Dec 2019, 21:59
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It was most amusing to see Boris trying to get in on the mocking of Trump going on with Justin Trudeau and Macron then pretending that he had nothing to do with it. I doubt that Trump will be very happy with his erstwhile best mate though.




Well...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50653597

Nato summit: Trump calls Trudeau 'two-faced' over video

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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:09
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The fine art of International statesmanship.......well Boris's version that is.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ithout-a-hitch

" We're at T minus seven and counting, all systems are go and we're cleared for main bollocks start "....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50666262

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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:07
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It would seem Cummings election plan of keeping it simple and focused on Brexit is working.....

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/from-manifestos-to-mantras-only-one-political-message-is-cutting-through-wqpwtrvdn

From manifestos to mantras: only one political message is cutting through


They have been bombarded with Facebook messages, harangued on Twitter, cajoled on Instagram and endured endless TV debates and phone-ins, but the only slogan the focus groups can remember is “Get Brexit Done”. At best Boris Johnson is seen as Bob the Builder, a man with a mission to fix Brexit so everyone can get on with their lives. Shannon, 24, a college worker from Plymouth, who voted Remain, summed it up, saying: “It’s just got to be done now.”

As for all the other slogans, pledges and promises, few believe any of them anymore........

The Times, with the opinion research company Public First, asked the views of 100 undecided voters from marginal constituencies in England and Wales who will decide the outcome on December 12 for the Election in One Room. In my room we were discussing “what’s cutting through” — into their sitting rooms, on their phones, in the playground and at work. It will make disheartening reading for the political parties that have blown their budgets on targeted marketing and advertising, and who have pledged billions of pounds in promises to improve public services while offering handouts to myriad interest groups – though not to small business, according to Lisa, 54, from Erewash, who owns a tattoo parlour.

Chris, 35, who works in the automotive industry and is from Bristol, said, “Brexit is all I’m hearing: morning, noon and night. This election is like having another referendum.” Wayne, 54, who runs a furniture business, from Halesowen & Rowley Regis, agreed: “We’ve just stalled for three years and done nothing on it. It’s got to be sorted now.” .......

Everyone was constantly looking for the motives behind the politicians’ slanging matches. Sharon, 34, a housing officer from Sherwood, said: “People don’t trust Donald Trump do they, so they’re trying to stick him in the mix to scare people.”

They all agreed they are more politically aware than ever, but they were also more sceptical, laughing at some of the more extravagant promises, particularly Jeremy Corbyn’s pledge to plant 2 billion trees by 2040. Simon, 45, from Calder Valley said: “I saw that they’d need to plant 200 or 2,000 trees every minute to deliver on those trees. It’s just ridiculous isn’t it?”

When shown a Labour party election broadcast, pledging billions of pounds for the NHS, pensioners, students and older women, many in the room laughed. Val, 58, a businessman from Wolverhampton said: “It all just sounds too good to be true. Everything you want is there, but it’s not going to happen, is it.” Jason, 40, a public sector worker from Erewash, said it reminded him of his children’s Christmas list. “He’d like it all, but it’s not happening.” Stuart, 63, retired and from Colne Valley, was more blunt: “Let’s be honest, it’s all just fanciful bollocks isn’t it?”.....

Linos, 39, from Birmingham, finds the politicians’ competition to outspend each other deeply off-putting: “To be honest they all promise so much during elections that you just zone out. How many millions or billions and this many nurses and all of that. You just know that it’s not going to happen or it’ll turn out to be underdelivered in the end.”.....

Most admitted they found both main options appalling. Nick from Walsall said, “For all Boris’s faults — and I think the guy is out of control — he’s a maverick and will get this sorted. That’s ultimately what we need, isn’t it, now.” Emma, 50, from Bristol said: “I would absolutely not be voting for Boris Johnson if this wasn’t purely to get this thing done and the country back to start looking at other priorities. I’m not saying Brexit is right — I didn’t vote it — but it’s got to be done now.” Meanwhile Mr Corbyn, one said, should campaign on “My time’s up”.

Why haven’t I mentioned the Liberal Democrats? Because they didn’t.

When the subject of the other parties was brought up, they viewed them as pointless. Kelly, 43, from Bury said: “The Lib Dems just feel like a wasted vote. We need to get this sorted one way or the other and they’re not going to help do that for me.” They have seen none of their ads but they have realised that the campaign is centred around the leader, Jo Swinson, and they don’t like it. Alison, 47, from Crewe, said: “I can’t stand the woman. Every time she comes on the TV I want to switch it off. She just wants to go against the people from 2016 and its undemocratic.” Another said “she needs her teeth doing” and a third, “she’s on another planet”......
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:17
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eu-prepares-for-swift-trade-talks-after-boris-johnson-victory-hfdk7q5zl

EU prepares for swift trade talks after Boris Johnson victory


EU leaders will call for a rapid start to negotiations on a post-Brexitfree trade agreement at a summit in Brussels a day after the UK general election.

In a sign that Brussels increasingly believes Boris Johnson will be returned to power, diplomats have drawn up draft summit conclusions calling for the “timely” ratification of the government’s withdrawal agreement.

A leaked draft text prepared for the summit calls on the European Commission to draw up a comprehensive mandate for talks on a future relationship with the UK “immediately after its withdrawal”. This, it adds, should then be “swiftly” adopted by EU leaders. “Negotiations should be organised in a way that makes the best possible use of the limited time available for negotiation and ratification by the end of the transition,” the paper states........

The text also suggests EU leaders are expecting a UK election outcome in which Mr Johnson wins a majority for passage of his withdrawal agreement, since it treats the UK’s exit on January 31 as a certainty. “They can see the polls just like everyone else,” said one EU diplomatic source.
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