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Old 1st Dec 2019, 07:29
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Not sure why they would spend 7M GBP on bikes and trails. If labour get in you will all be walking and riding because you can not afford cars!
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 07:36
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While this sounds like something the Times may have dreamed up (maybe genuine, I don't know), I wonder what the financial impact on the NHS may be if people generally found themselves fitter by cycling to and from work or the shops etc? Just like it was when I was a kid and very few had cars.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 09:04
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I would suggest the NHS could find far better ways to spend another £7B.

The scheme is fraught with problems. As well as bikes the6 will have to provide training, helmets, knee pads etc - since any accidents will lead to the ambulance chasers seeking £Ms in compensation payments. I doubt adequate locks will be provided, and most claimants won’t be locations where they can store bikes safely inside s9 theft will be rife; and why worry, just go and get a new prescription, right?

The same will hold for repairs, tyres etc, unless done under the NHS they will be discarded and a new one claimed. I presume all the tens of thousands of workers providing all these services will also need to be NHS, on NHS salaries and pensions.

I fear the inevitable result will be the same as for the free/low rental bike schemes introduced by the Chinese in many cities - piles of discarded bikes in streets and canals, and a large. Umber seems in the streets of Nigeria and The Gambia etc having been shipped out by the container load.





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Old 1st Dec 2019, 09:27
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Most overweight people get that way because they are too lazy to burn off their excess diet.
How are you going to make them use their free bikes?
You can lead a horse to water...
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 09:29
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Originally Posted by Exrigger View Post
Looks like another election disaster for the Conservatives as per 2017 is a possibility and a Labour/SNP government might end up as a reality, that is if the latest Guardian report is correct and the trend continues as indicated:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gaining-ground
Its not clear to me, but isnít that poll about 3 weeks old. Difficult to see in the article itself.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 09:30
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
The scheme is fraught with problems. As well as bikes the6 will have to provide training, helmets, knee pads etc - since any accidents will lead to the ambulance chasers seeking £Ms in compensation payments. I doubt adequate locks will be provided, and most claimants won’t be locations where they can store bikes safely inside s9 theft will be rife; and why worry, just go and get a new prescription, right?

The same will hold for repairs, tyres etc, unless done under the NHS they will be discarded and a new one claimed. I presume all the tens of thousands of workers providing all these services will also need to be NHS, on NHS salaries and pensions.

I fear the inevitable result will be the same as for the free/low rental bike schemes introduced by the Chinese in many cities - piles of discarded bikes in streets and canals, and a large. Umber seems in the streets of Nigeria and The Gambia etc having been shipped out by the container load.
This is fearmongering. What proof do you have that there is any downside to Corbyn's promises ?
Why could you not go cycling like the Netherlands do ? Bicycle services will be provided by British citizens by the hundreds of thousands, ex-fishermen, ex-car industry workers, ex-farmers.
The bicycle project will be the easiest of projects...

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 10:04
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Downside to Corbynís promises..? For you, none at all as youíre not going to have to pay for any of them. For UK taxpayers itís just a game of spin-the-bottle, handing out free stuff.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 10:40
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
Downside to Corbynís promises..? For you, none at all as youíre not going to have to pay for any of them. For UK taxpayers itís just a game of spin-the-bottle, handing out free stuff.
Aw ShotOne ! Didn't those 'arguments' ring a bell ?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 11:20
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Ah yes, cycling, that arch threat to British civilisation

Meanwhile on the streets of a town that is more than 40 years ahead: A cheeky smile or two and not a high vis or helmet in sight.


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Old 1st Dec 2019, 11:35
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If that's a town in the EU then it must prove that cycling is bad for you and should be banned in Britain. Seriously though innumerable European towns and cities have huge bike populations, not just Amsterdam but all of the Netherlands plus Denmark and Sweden-though the cycle tracks there are unusable in winter but are used for ski paths. Berlin also has a huge number of cyclists. we often don't have space in UK although more effort could be made and in many towns the terrain doesn't help. Cycle lanes in High Wycombe, for example, would be a death trap-heart failure on the way up and catastrophe on the way down.

In other 'news' todays papers overflow with Pinocchio's pledges to be tough on terror and not let terrorists out early. Nothing wrong with that except it was his party not Corbyn's who let them all out in the first place. As has been said before have we ever had such a poor choice , fantasist and liar or dissembler and ditherer. It comes to something when raincoat and hatted elderly lady walking dog in home counties says on TV -I have always voted for conservative but I wont vote for that buffoon,
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 11:53
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Shambling, rambling performance on Marr today. He was accused of "chuntering" and that is exactly what it was. He really is a very poor performer. I thought Corbyn was bad, he's far worse.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 13:44
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New York Times...

Britain's Dirty Election.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 14:25
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The scheme is fraught with problems. As well as bikes the6 will have to provide training, helmets, knee pads etc - since any accidents will lead to the ambulance chasers seeking £Ms in compensation payments.
Did anybody tell Boris this when he was masquerading as the Mayor of London?
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 16:55
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KelvinD; according to Wiki the D-Day Dodgers was originally written by Lance-Sergeant Harry Pynn and the original lyrics didn't mention Astor:

[QUOTEThe song was written in November 1944 by Lance-Sergeant Harry Pynn of the Tank Rescue Section, 19 Army Fire Brigade, who was with the 78th Infantry Division just south of Bologna, Italy.=left[1] There were many variations on verses and even the chorus, but the song generally and sarcastically referred to how easy their life in Italy was. There was no mention of Lady Astor in the original lyrics.][/QUOTE]
This being derived from:
Palmer, Roy (1990). [i=left]"What a Lovely War!" British Soldiers' Songs from the Boer War to the Present Day[/i]. London: Michael Joseph. p. 227. ISBN9780718133573.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 17:03
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Shambling, rambling performance on Marr today.
Yes it was, and then some. Blustering away, non-stop verbal diarrhoea to prevent the next question being asked, simply repeating fatuous slogans and the usual lies. The notion that this creature, this utter buffoon, might well still be Prime Minister in 2 weeks time is just appalling. As a Conservative Party member, I cannot vote Conservative on 12th December because of him and his insane "Get Brexit done" mindset. Marxist Labour is not an option, so it's the Lib-Dems or our local, very good, Independent. Luckily, round here both of those options has a good chance of ousting the Conservative. Labour has no chance of doing that, here; they'll be in 3rd or 4th place.

Johnson's inability to grasp that the majority of citizens do not want to "Get Brexit Done" with the dreadful deal the EU told him to sign (BoJo couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag) will, let us pray, catch up with him on 12th December.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 17:08
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ON makes a considered case for bicycles not being a panacea answer in UK. After living in a flat land we sold ours before moving to a hill country. The dog benefits from all the walking. (Issue dogs instead?)

At 5 miles commute I used a pedal bike most days. At 25 miles may be a couple of times a month in fine weather but I only had a 40 mile electric range. In both cases I needed changing facilities at work.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 17:56
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Johnson's inability to grasp that the majority of citizens do not want to "Get Brexit Done" with the dreadful deal the EU told him to sign (BoJo couldn't negotiate his way out of a paper bag) will, let us pray, catch up with him on 12th December.
So, as a Conservative Party member, you'd prefer to hand over the reigns to a terrorist sympathising, anti-semitic marxist? Strange set of priorities you have.
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:47
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
New York Times...

Britain's Dirty Election.
Yes. Gives an idea of what foreigners think about politics in the UK. For those who care about the UK...
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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:56
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I find it rather funny that the minor political parties keep telling us that at the forthcoming General Election there are bigger things than Brexit.

Well, well, well. No wonder they are minor parties.

This election is only about one thing; BREXIT.

If Boris delivers on time - hero.
If Boris doesn't - zero.

That's the reason the election was called.

Nothing else matters, until Brexit is sorted.

Simples

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Old 1st Dec 2019, 18:56
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Originally Posted by flocci_non_faccio View Post
So, as a Conservative Party member, you'd prefer to hand over the reigns to a terrorist sympathising, anti-semitic marxist? Strange set of priorities you have.
Strange sources of 'information' you seem to have, sir :-)
Where does this anti-semitic accusation come from, it this country massively hating its own neighbours, partners, fellow European plumbers and nurses ?
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