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Old 27th Nov 2019, 11:25
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So get yourself out of that bed and go vote....
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 11:29
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And people, this document proves that the US has asked for access to the NHS

"Well we'd like Ferrari's from Santa at Christmas, but that does not mean we will get one, well, not unless you have now written that into your election promises."



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Old 27th Nov 2019, 11:40
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I think Labour may have dug a hole for themselves when they recently, in an effort to neutralise a lot of allegations of antisemitism, they finally agreed to a slightly definition of antisemitism. The widened definition now includes attacking Israel on its appalling human rights record and siding with displaced Palestinians. So, Labour seem to have made a rod for their own back and left themselves open to all manner of frothing at the mouth by people such as the Chief Rabbi. Did anybody else see the the photo on the BBC news last night which appeared to show the Rabbi all hugger mugger with Johnson?
My interpretation of antisemitism was always a belief that it is wrong to pick on someone purely because of their religion, whether they be Jews, Roman Catholics or Mounted Bombay Methodists. When it comes round to criticising nations, political parties etc, I think it is fair game. And should be forever! Imagine being taken to court for calling Tommy "Robinson" for the racist so and so he really is.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 11:41
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post

"Well I'd like a Ferrari from Santa at Christmas, but that does not mean I will get one"
When the disparity in power between the asker and the giver is huge then thereís a fair chance they might!
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 13:16
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The Government retraining initiative for older members of the public gets off to an early pre election start. Asked what the chances of a Labour win were, Mr Corbyn a resident of Lewisham replied he was bricking it..


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Old 27th Nov 2019, 13:30
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Well it looks like some movement in the polls. The latest Kantar saw 7% sliced off Borice's admittedly outlier 18% lead. But ICM yesterday saw a reduction to 7 points representing a tiny 2.2% swing since 2017. My feeling is that, judging by the fact that Mrs EM's phone has been buzzing all week with communication from 50's born women that Corbyn reprise of Thatcher's Right to Buy bribe is hitting the mark.
Presumably only with people who are prepared to risk losing a great deal more than they, together with their wider families, would be likely to gain in the longer term, if indeed the so-called reprise afterthought ever came to pass. And I don't just mean financially.

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Old 27th Nov 2019, 18:28
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The Government retraining initiative for older members of the public gets off to an early pre election start. Asked what the chances of a Labour win were, Mr Corbyn a resident of Lewisham replied he was bricking it..


Any possibility of a piccie of Johnson indulging his passion - making a bus from wooden crates? ... or is that just another of his fantasies?
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 18:46
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Cool

Diane Abbott just announced that Labour will provide every household with free broad beans by 2030.
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 19:05
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Will she count them out?
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 19:15
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Another Labour Trade MP getting a caning on Andrew Neil and he is biting.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 05:24
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This little gem is taken from the thread about WASPI Women....

" aside from the fallacy of selling the NHS ".........is this based based on the naÔve belief that because Boris has said so, this will be the case then ?.

Presumably this dossier, I know.... Labour and dossiers haven't always been a happy mix, is pure fabrication were it not for, our de facto President having certain "T's and C's " to prop up the puppet Gov't in the US Protectorate of UK and this dossier, along with the C4 "Dispatches " programme, gives a disturbing insight as to the expectations for the future.

Obviously, it won't be a wholesale instant sell off.....even Boris isn't that arrogant, just a steady bit by bit erosion of the NHS and the insidious acquisition as a result....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...d-drug-pricing

However, the major news today is ?.........Boris makes first ( and probably the last ) factual statement ! ! ...as headlined in the Excess.

No kidding Boris.....although to put this more into perspective, austerity hasn't really been bad for the UK....only the few millions directly affected by George and Dave's vindictive ideology .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50581462

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 05:30
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The reason this poll is getting so much attention is that, firstly, it was of over 100,000 people spread over every constituency, second the same poll in 2015 accurately forecast the final vote.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...211-snp-43-ld-

YouGov MRP: Conservatives 359, Labour 211, SNP 43, LD 13, Plaid 4, Green 1

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 05:52
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I heard on the radio how they carry out a MRP poll. They are very very accurate and in the last British election forecast the result within a couple of seats.
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 05:56
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
The reason this poll is getting so much attention is that, firstly, it was of over 100,000 people spread over every constituency, second the same poll in 2015 accurately forecast the final vote.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...211-snp-43-ld-

YouGov MRP: Conservatives 359, Labour 211, SNP 43, LD 13, Plaid 4, Green 1

Not so ORAC, not so....

You see, when it comes to polls, the Mail, and astute readers will note the source of the link below, has the definitive poll !
There again, when it comes to the Mail and statistics, it's fair to say these can be tested to a 0% confidence level........and, being Christmas, a load of baubles

I should add I have complete confidence in my anti-virus protection re below.......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 06:01
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This morning's BBC has outdone itself. First is a sub headline under an item telling us how Johnson wants to raise the number of female candidates in his party: "Boris Johnson wants more women in the Tories...". Of course he does; he wants to widen the pool in which he can fish.
Again with the BBC; I just heard (I think) Mark Easton explaining the importance of the young persons' vote. In the spiel, he said "In 1964, Harold Wilson won the election with the help of a youth quake, with 80% of 18 to 25 year olds voting. That would be the Harold Wilson who lowered the voting age to 18 in 1969, I suppose?
ORAC: I realise that results from the polling group founded and owned by a couple of Conservatives may well, somehow, find a perpetual positive spin on polls favouring the Tories may excite you but does the text in your message of good tidings need to be in a font that causes my eyes to bleed?
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 06:18
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KelvinD,

Blame PPRuNe. When I paste it now comes up that size. I used to have a button which allowed me to change font size - no longer there on my iPad browser.

Labour announcement today that they will plant 2 billion trees in next 20 years. If you do the sums that means a minimum of 300,000 a day. Alllwing for establishing the programme, contracts etc, more likely 500,000 a day to allow for planting seasons etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-next-20-years
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 07:01
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ORAC you haven’t taken into consideration the 4 day week we will all be working.lol
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 07:11
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No doubt in reaction to the poll showing their northern leave MPs were right about the effect of their policy, Labour changing tack to find another even thinner fence upon which to sit.

Such a blatant attempt to play the northern voters for fools could lose them even more votes, not win them back....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50580699

General election 2019: Labour to change strategy with two weeks to go

Labour Brexit policy explained....

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Old 28th Nov 2019, 07:19
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ORAC you haven’t taken into consideration the 4 day week we will all be working.lol
Not all of us, those 50,000 New Nurses will be working 8 days a week , tending to all the sore backs......

Politicians and numbers ............
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Old 28th Nov 2019, 07:20
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On the subject of numbers (tree planting figures), it was reported in the news this morning that the yougov poll to which you refer "interviewed 100,000 voters during the last week". This amounts to 14,285 per day. If they were to be phoning a friend 24 hours per day. I can imagine the discomfort of those voters should they find themselves being phoned 0 dark o'clock, so let's allow for a 16 hour day. The number now comes close to 900 per hour. Yeah! Right!
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