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Old 25th Nov 2019, 16:21
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So once again the ExMail and co claim Corbyn is a security risk according to our spooks (a well known centrist organisation) -but why. He may have been a commie in his younger days but so what there are not any communist regimes anymore. Russia is now more right wing than us and the Czechs, who he is always associated, with are now on our side . Boris on the other hand is a dire security risk -he went to Eton (just kidding there ) but his personal life means he is open to all kinds of blackmail and pressure and yet no one claims he is a risk , the USA is just as much a foreign power as anyone else.
Personally I think Corbyn is an idiot - with Boris as PM and the Tories record pretty much any decent politician would wipe the floor with them . If Blair was involved this time around he would probably geta majority of about 200, I mean -Boris pledges we will get 50, 000 more nurses, well leaving aside that his party axed a large number under austerity where on earth will they come from ? Almost all overseas , so much for immigration targets and as not many European nurses are going to come here now they will all be stolen from the poorest countries who need them even more than we do. But hey Boris is Father Christmas and Jesus Christ all in one is n't he
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 16:36
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He's not getting 50,000 more nurses, he is just trying to retain a lot of the present workforce, tempt some who left back to work and bring in some from overseas. Like all his pledges, the devil is in the detail, but it makes good headlines for those that like their news via soundbites.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:08
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Great minds think alike ! ( he said. modestly )......had a Tory canvasser outside today....no sooner than he approached, the dog went ballistic !.....stuffed a leaflet through and left ......always said she was a good Socialist dog ! .....and before anybody starts, she's harmless, usually just wants to love everybody she meets, likes being adored and only chews me for fun.....dogs are well known barometers for assessing human nature.

Mind you, she would probably be a bit miffed in comparing her intellect to my own.........
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:11
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Ohhh Dear, Another Jobsworth copper, One does hope he is reducated, MADE to apologise, the force pay to replace the removed decals and the said copper reinstall them.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
well maybe the victim motorist is being fast and loose with the truth. Did they move after being stopped and beginning the removal of the decals or does he have a different idea of what a hard shoulder is to most people? His own footage doesn’t look “terrifying” And nobody is shouting.

Through common use you could argue that Bollocks has been watered down in offensiveness, and verbally you’d be pushed to get any leverage legally. But plastered on a vehicle?

Think the Lib Dems weren’t exactly being model citizens (which as MPs they should be) when they kicked off the Bollocks to Brexit message. You can get that message across more effectively without causing offense.

Raab’s recent use of the phrase “give a toss” was another high point in making a point in reasoned discussion.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:39
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Nicola Sturgeon is to be subjected to the Andrew Neil treatment on BBC1 at 19:30 today.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:43
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PB, you are deemed a blackmail risk of you have been a naughty boy and want to keep it secret. Boris would not seen to fit that bill.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:47
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Apparently 9.6 million have not registered to vote and 25% BAME have not registered. Will the Remain faction, especially the ones here, say the Get Brexit Done party will not be legitimate unless they get 9.6 million votes more?
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 18:24
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
PB, you are deemed a blackmail risk of you have been a naughty boy and want to keep it secret. Boris would not seen to fit that bill.
He seems keen to keep the number of children he has a secret....
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax View Post
He seems keen to keep the number of children he has a secret....
... and the number of abortions.

But I doubt that's a blackmail opportunity. He seems not to care about such things.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:16
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Nicola Sturgeon is to be subjected to the Andrew Neil treatment on BBC1 at 19:30 today.
In my opinion she got owned by Andrew Neil, he demolished most of her arguments over rejoining the EU and independence.

God she talks a lot of bolloxs sometimes........we want independence but we want to be in the EU, that isn't independence and would sell her fishing industry she used to bleat on about down the river.


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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:44
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post


In my opinion she got owned by Andrew Neil, he demolished most of her arguments over rejoining the EU and independence.

God she talks a lot of bolloxs sometimes........we want independence but we want to be in the EU, that isn't independence and would sell her fishing industry she used to bleat on about down the river.
She speaks for a majority of people in Scotland who want to be free of England and to be in the EU.
Your opinion may be different, but they are entitled to theirs.

Sooner or later Scotland will leave the UK and will apply to join the EU. How that works out will then be none of our business.

As for the fishing, our leaving the EU will make little difference to who actually catches the fish.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 20:56
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
She speaks for a majority of people in Scotland who want to be free of England and to be in the EU.
Your opinion may be different, but they are entitled to theirs.

Sooner or later Scotland will leave the UK and will apply to join the EU. How that works out will then be none of our business.

As for the fishing, our leaving the EU will make little difference to who actually catches the fish.
i take it you never saw the car crash interview.
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 21:48
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
i take it you never saw the car crash interview.
No. I've not watched any of the party politicals or interviews, and won't until after the election.

I doubt very much whether hers - or any others - will make any difference to the general feelings within Scotland as to the wish for independence.

It will be driven by ideology rather than facts, just like Brexit.
It will be difficult and take years of pain, just like Brexit.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 00:36
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LOL..

He wrote: “Friends say the marriage ended because of Corbyn’s behaviour — his financial fecklessness, his thoughtless absences and his selfish refusal to do anything to make his wife’s life more pleasant.
“Life with Corbyn had proved difficult for Claudia.“Labour MP Tony Banks witnessed just how difficult as one day he walked into Westminster’s central lobby and spotted her standing by the wall, tearfully holding her children.” “Jeremy, Claudia explained, had promised to meet her two hours earlier.

“He had not turned up... Banks was not surprised.

“When pushed to have a day off, Jeremy’s idea was to take his partner to Highgate Cemetery and study the grave of Karl Marx.”’
Despite the alleged circumstances of their divorce, Ms Bracchitta wrote in 1999 that newspapers unfairly portrayed the MP as an “uncaring” parent.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1206552/Jeremy-Corbyn-wife-second-wife-divorce-Labour-leader?int_source=traffic.outbrain&int_medium=traffic.outbra in&int_term=traffic.outbrain&int_content=traffic.outbrain&in t_campaign=traffic.outbrain
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:24
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Not sure if this made the Express Nutloose, but on the subject of supposedly "car crash" TV appearances, the BBC have been caught out doctoring for political reasons being careless with their editing yet again.......

The BBC has claimed it made a “mistake” in editing a clip where it cut out an audience laughing at Boris Johnson, insisting the decision was made due to time constraints rather than political bias.

In the Question Time leaders’ debate special, broadcast on BBC One on Friday night, an audience member asked the prime minister: “How important is it for someone in your position of power to always tell the truth?”

Her question to Johnson was met with laughter, followed by applause, with Johnson struggling to reply. But in the version shown on the following day’s lunchtime news bulletin the laughter had been removed, with the BBC initially saying the edit had been made for time reasons before it rowed back and admitted its error.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...n-in-tv-debate
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 06:40
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What a cad ! scoundrel ! and utter bounder !....although it's doubtful if these terms are part of Excess readers vocabulary.....

Sadly, you missed out commenting on the last bit............ "Despite the alleged circumstances of their divorce, Ms Bracchitta wrote in 1999 that newspapers unfairly portrayed the MP as an “uncaring” parent"

Which is a near as the rag gets to pragmatism....

Back to Boris..first, it was an innocent bull, although this was more than apt really, and now.... a sheep !......you have to feel sorry for the sheep really, the last thing the poor animal could have ever envisaged was being used to support Boris let alone being lovingly fondled by him......other politicians stick to holding babies and posing....Boris seems to have a preference for livestock !
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:11
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If anyone is still wondering why a major facet of the Tory campaign seems to be making darned sure that their front bench politicians are not exposed to untamed the General public...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-dominic-raab

Raab was heckled during his final address at a hustings in East Molesey, Surrey, on Monday evening, with one woman standing up to ask him about Dunn, whose family and friends were kept outside for the duration of the event due to purported concerns about overcrowding.

Raab was later confronted by Tim Dunn, Harry’s father, and friends of the late 19-year-old as he left the building and was ushered into his official car. Police officers and security staff were stopping people from blocking the exit, while the crowd booed Raab and shouted “coward” as he drove away.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hustings.html

In the brief but passionate exchange, the Foreign Secretary told Mr Dunn: 'I'm very happy to speak to you but I have to go in there.

'I don't want to keep the other people waiting but I am very happy to see you any time, you've got my number.'

After the foreign secretary disappeared behind wrought iron gates Mr Dunn said: 'I wanted to ask him why he lied to me.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:24
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post

In my opinion she got owned by Andrew Neil, he demolished most of her arguments over rejoining the EU and independence.
I watched it and didn't see any signs of a car crash, looked like any other interview with Andrew Neil versus politician. Both sides disagreeing over sources of information.
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:25
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In the main it's true about lesser beings than Boris not being exposed to the public....but, there's always one exception and who else but ?.....that nice Mr Gove.

Ironically filmed in a farm yard, presumably the local effluent treatment plant was unavailable, here he is giving his ringing endorsement to those recent "adaptations " and the use of IT by his party.......

https://www.channel4.com/news/michae...ies-and-brexit
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Old 26th Nov 2019, 07:26
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As for the fishing, our leaving the EU will make little difference to who actually catches the fish.
Indeed, not because of the negative aspects of the EU fishing policy, or any apparent inadequacies in the future relationship agreement, whenever that comes, but because over decades the UK fishing industry failed to invest in modern equipment, ships and the like and basically leaving an open door to the Icelanders, Russians and those pesky European who (wrongly) are landed with all the blame for the industries short comings.
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