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Old 19th Oct 2019, 18:46
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Completely agree with you Nutloose. I can't decide who is worse - Maitlis or the blonde with the owl specs ( Emma ? ) who also appears on Newsnight and then there's Wark with her unintelligible accent. Who chooses these people as presenters ?
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 19:46
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If you find Kirsty's accent difficult I suggest you get a hearing test, it's hardly Raab C Nesbit. I think it's more likely that you just confirm the SNP complaint of anti Scots bias. I say that as someone born and bred in Suffolk.
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 19:47
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I have to agree re Emily Maitlis. She outdid the erstwhile champions of the "shout the buggers down" school of interviewing; Humphreys & Robinson. I was surprised nobody jumped up and clocked Emily tonight. PJ Is it Emma Barnett?
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Old 19th Oct 2019, 21:25
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A kinder gentler politics.......

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Old 20th Oct 2019, 06:50
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I hope nobody is trying to claim the moral high ground about MPs needing police escorts outside Parliament, sadly that sort of behaviour has been going on for months ...for those that missed it just a reminder

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...t-police-chief

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...st-anna-soubry



Whoever is doing it, whichever "side" is involved - such behaviour is wrong, always has been.

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Old 20th Oct 2019, 10:05
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KelvinD - having made the effort to identify her - yes, it is Emma Barnett.
Effluent Man - nothing I said about Wark is anti - Scottish. There's nothing wrong with her accent but she has a very nasal tone of voice and she slurs her words so badly that, at times, she appears drunk. I've no criticism of her interviewing technique.
For good measure I'll now comment on Fiona Bruce. When she started on Question Time I thought she was a welcome change to Dimbleby who, I thought, had grown "stale". However Bruce is now following the fashion in constantly interrupting the panellists. She then compounds the situation by putting her head down and mumbling her own thoughts on the topic.
Presenters have to have control over their programme but others manage it well enough. Maitlis and Barnett happen to be examples of interviewers who are getting it wrong.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 10:15
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There seems to be a fixation with women interviewers on here that their male counterparts don’t generate.
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Old 20th Oct 2019, 10:38
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So, somebody’s accent is the big story of the day then? Am I the only one utterly infuriated by the self-indulgent posturing of parliamentarians of all sides? Just when it looked like we could move ahead (nb I speak as a remain voter) What a pointless bunch of grand-standers. What a waste of our time. What now? Kick them ALL out to do something useful.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 01:41
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Spanish march in solidarity with the remainers march

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50115974
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 07:57
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Spanish march in solidarity with the remainers march

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50115974
If it weren't for the numbers involved, given there were, ahem, "considerably fewer than promoted or promised " shurely this photo is more reflective of those hardy souls who participated ( well apart from the Divine Saviour and Glorious Leader that is, he being "otherwise engaged.....as leaders often are ) in The Long March ( UK Version ) a few months ago.

It's pleasing to learn however, that, another female interviewer who also attracts the rabid condemnation of many on here, Cathy Newman, was missing from the list. Does this mean in the eyes and ears of the JB "womenknowyourplacescenti ! " she has somehow been granted atonement ?

But, there was mention as to why male interviewers don't attract the same irate rants....hence a mention for C4 News and one K.G-M. It won't come as too much of a shock to learn I enjoy watching his reports along with his special feature items. I recommend "Unreported World " as being essential viewing in this respect.

Incidentally, Boris, never averse as we know to opening his orifice, refused to grant an interview to C4 News during the recent conference. Funny that ...or would be if it didn't demonstrate Boris's fear of being exposed for what he says and does which aren't always the same thing.....in fact they rarely are.

I should add I find non of those mentioned in anyway incompetent and also perfectly audible.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 15:36
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20 OCTOBER 2019 • 6:45PM
Follow Stephen Lawrence's mother has been accused of making a "disgraceful and unfair slur" after claiming that firefighters tackling the Grenfell Tower blaze were racist.

Doreen Lawrence, whose 18-year-old son was murdered by a gang of racists in south-east London in 1993, said she has "no doubt" the response to the inferno that killed 72 people was motivated by racism.

"Had that been a block full of white people, they’d have done everything to get them out as fast as possible and make sure that they did what they needed to do," she said, in an interview with Channel 4 News last week.

Her claims, strongly refuted by London Fire Brigade (LFB), were described as "misjudged and insulting" by the Police Federation's Chairman John Apter.

He wrote on Twitter: "A disgraceful and unfair slur on Firefighters who put their own lives on the line to save as many people as they could.

The actual interview is on Channel 4 News. And I know how some like to quote Ch4 as being impartial.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 16:11
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Originally Posted by The Nip View Post
20 OCTOBER 2019 • 6:45PM
Follow Stephen Lawrence's mother has been accused of making a "disgraceful and unfair slur" after claiming that firefighters tackling the Grenfell Tower blaze were racist.

Doreen Lawrence, whose 18-year-old son was murdered by a gang of racists in south-east London in 1993, said she has "no doubt" the response to the inferno that killed 72 people was motivated by racism.

"Had that been a block full of white people, they’d have done everything to get them out as fast as possible and make sure that they did what they needed to do," she said, in an interview with Channel 4 News last week.

Her claims, strongly refuted by London Fire Brigade (LFB), were described as "misjudged and insulting" by the Police Federation's Chairman John Apter.

He wrote on Twitter: "A disgraceful and unfair slur on Firefighters who put their own lives on the line to save as many people as they could.

The actual interview is on Channel 4 News. And I know how some like to quote Ch4 as being impartial.
I saw the interview when it was originally transmitted. I think that perhaps it would be unfair to blame Ch4 News as they were surely just the conduit for her opinion and did not put the words in her mouth. Having said that, I said to my wife at the time of the original transmission that the Baroness's claims were absolutely disgraceful and nothing short of that.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 18:26
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Speaking of journalists/reporters, it has just been announced that one of the best of that ilk, Samira Ahmed is taking the BBC to court over the anti female bias in salaries. They are due in court next Monday.
In the same article reporting this, the BBC wrote (among other things) of various presenters "earning" annual salaries ranging between £500,000 to £2.2 Million. and later in the article they say "Claudia Winkelman, Zoe Ball & Vanessa Feltz are now among the corporation's top earners". At this point, I have to question their definition of "earn".
Meanwhile, I had occasion to complain to the BBC one week ago this morning and am still awaiting a response. Perhaps their complaint handlers are not "earning" enough? (The complaint referred to a programme on Radio 4 and the Today show a couple of days later. In each one, the Prime Minster's meeting with Leo Varadkar on the Wirral and each time the Wirral was mentioned, there was sniggering and tittering between the reporters. I don't know why they feel the Wirral is deserving of derision but perhaps their reply, if ever I receive one, will enlighten me. Yes, I am a native of the Wirral. As is the DG of the BBC, Lord Hall and Pontius Navigator of PPRuNe fame)
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 20:08
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One good thing to come out of the paralysis afflicting the UK for the past 3 years is the legalization of gay marriage in NI today as imposed by Westminster. The DUP bleated endlessly about the backstop causing a divergence in laws between NI and Britain, and now argue the current proposed deal is unacceptable as it again causes divergence in the laws, and yet they fought tooth and nail to prevent harmonization of the laws regarding same sex marriage and abortion because they are religious fundamentalists. Utter hypocrisy and I’m truly glad they got a kick in the teeth today. I couldn’t care less about republicanism or unionism but the DUP are absolute cretins.
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Old 21st Oct 2019, 23:58
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Originally Posted by The Nip View Post
20 OCTOBER 2019 • 6:45PM
Follow Stephen Lawrence's mother has been accused of making a "disgraceful and unfair slur" after claiming that firefighters tackling the Grenfell Tower blaze were racist.

Doreen Lawrence, whose 18-year-old son was murdered by a gang of racists in south-east London in 1993, said she has "no doubt" the response to the inferno that killed 72 people was motivated by racism.

"Had that been a block full of white people, they’d have done everything to get them out as fast as possible and make sure that they did what they needed to do," she said, in an interview with Channel 4 News last week.

Her claims, strongly refuted by London Fire Brigade (LFB), were described as "misjudged and insulting" by the Police Federation's Chairman John Apter.

He wrote on Twitter: "A disgraceful and unfair slur on Firefighters who put their own lives on the line to save as many people as they could.

The actual interview is on Channel 4 News. And I know how some like to quote Ch4 as being impartial.
Hmmm I watched the TV programme tonight dealing with unpaid tickets on London transport and could not believe my ears when some woman was berating the ticket inspector over the 1.50 fare dodge citing why was he doing it as they were the same colour.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 09:04
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Originally Posted by Una Due Tfc View Post
One good thing to come out of the paralysis afflicting the UK for the past 3 years is the legalization of gay marriage in NI today as imposed by Westminster. The DUP bleated endlessly about the backstop causing a divergence in laws between NI and Britain, and now argue the current proposed deal is unacceptable as it again causes divergence in the laws, and yet they fought tooth and nail to prevent harmonization of the laws regarding same sex marriage and abortion because they are religious fundamentalists. Utter hypocrisy and I’m truly glad they got a kick in the teeth today. I couldn’t care less about republicanism or unionism but the DUP are absolute cretins.
On BBC Breakfast this morning they did an interview with a gent in Northern Ireland who is planning to marry his (same sex) partner following the legalisation. He made a very good point as regards the DUP when he pointed out that they will fight to remain part of the UK tooth and nail where Brexit is concerned and want the rules in all parts of the UK, including NI to be the same, but when it comes to something they don't like they want NI to be different to the rest of the nation. Somehow typical of the two faced hypocritical nature of the DUP. In any other part of the UK they would have been consigned to history.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 09:41
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In any other part of the UK they would have been consigned to history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_P...ch_of_Scotland

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...thern-ireland/
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 18:55
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An interesting story doing the rounds. Apparently a Ken Clarke has suggested that a bill for a General Ekection would be amended to allow the voting age to be dropped to sixteen.
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 19:10
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An interesting story doing the rounds. Apparently a Ken Clarke has suggested that a bill for a General Ekection would be amended to allow the voting age to be dropped to sixteen.
Heard in Parliament yesterday : "Nobody born in this century had his say in this brexit decision".
This plus a serious ID check and mail vote control, and guess what, Torries and Brexiteers will no longer demand a general election...;-)
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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 19:33
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For God's sake, Fly Aiprt, will you please stop this nonsense about vote control/fraud etc? If you followed earlier posts, you would see that an investigation had found that postal vote fraud had been found to be at a ridiculously low number.
As for dropping the voting age to 16; I was listening on the radio yesterday to some well meaning doctor explaining why kids should be banned from heading a ball when playing football as the "brain doesn't fully develop until around the age of 20 to 25 (or something around that age). Kids of 16 don't know much about anything. Not a fault of theirs but experience comes only with living and the longer you have done that, the better the chances are that you will have learned something about the world in which you live. If kids need to be 18 to buy cigarettes or alcohol etc, why would an election benefit from having a different age limit?
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