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Old 30th Aug 2019, 23:55
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During a discussion on the BBC News channel just now, a deputy editor of the Express reminded us that the ERG crowd told Johnson during the leadership hustings that he can be King of the Party on condition that he gets them the Brexit they want by October 31st. Should he fail, they will all leave the Tory party on November 1st. Now there's interesting!
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 06:02
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Anyone watched last nights programme about the supreme leader of China would not be able to equate the Remainers views with the reality of political life in the UK.
Leaving aside who is actually running the UK....Cummings and / or Trump, this timely article explains the reality of political life in the UK......


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ion-government
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 06:11
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Leaving aside who is actually running the UK....Cummings and / or Trump, this timely article explains the reality of political life in the UK......
...in the eyes of the left wing media.

Come on KnC. You know it would be equally possible to post a link from the right wing media saying this is exactly what the country needs and that the government are socking it to the EU.

Surely even you must be getting bored of only seeing one side of the argument by now?!

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Old 31st Aug 2019, 06:37
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To be fair Bob, while it may be possible to post an article from right wing media (how would you like to undertake that task?), it is difficult to ignore historical accounts and quotes from many of the Conservative's leading light such as these:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...gue-parliament
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 06:54
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Originally Posted by Blossy View Post
Anyone watched last nights programme about the supreme leader of China would not be able to equate the Remainers views with the reality of political life in the UK.
Or in other words "I'm not sure why there are all the complaints, our leadership is not as undemocratic as the Chinese"...

........John 11:35
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 07:09
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Kelvin,

Again though, that is from the Guardian. Boris could personally save a dozen orphans from a burning building and they’d still hate him.

The trouble I have here is that we all form our opinions of these politicians based on what the media tell us. None of us know them personally. Boris might be the most selfless, principled person in the world but you’d never know that. Everyone here believes he is an arrogant, selfish sociopath. But how do they know that is correct.

Two years ago tens of thousands of people chanted Jeremy Corbyn ‘s name at Glastonbury and virtually hailed him as the next messiah. Because of an image portrayed in the media. How many of those people still idolise him now I wonder?

You see I don’t really know what to think of these people because I’ve never met them. I wouldn’t invite any of them round for dinner and I wouldn’t let them babysit my kids though. That much I do know.

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Old 31st Aug 2019, 08:17
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It's not personal though is it? I could well imagine having a decent conversation with Boris, Nige or Jezza, albeit I would think that he subject matter might be rather different ( Buses, Allotments and Beer?) but it is the political direction of travel that exercises us most. The one thing that I feel all three share is that they would accept pretty much any outcome for their country as long as it included a good one for themselves.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 08:52
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EM, but would it have been a conversation or a lecture?

Once had lunch with an MEP, unlike a Harrier pilot he didn't tell me. Later, when I knew he was an MEP, he had dinner and gave a talk at our Rotary Club. Very personable and an interesting talk. He later changed from Tory to UKIP.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 10:26
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
. Very personable and an interesting talk. He later changed from Tory to UKIP.
Personable and defecting to UKIP are not usually seen in the same sentence .

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Old 31st Aug 2019, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
Personable and defecting to UKIP are not usually seen in the same sentence .
You can be personable, no matter what your politics. I can imagine enjoying an evening in the pub with Nigel Farage provided the normal rules of not discussing "religion or politics" were observed. Politically I detest the man, but I'm no so bigoted as to not talk to him.
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 15:41
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
You can be personable, no matter what your politics. I can imagine enjoying an evening in the pub with Nigel Farage provided the normal rules of not discussing "religion or politics" were observed. Politically I detest the man, but I'm no so bigoted as to not talk to him.
I'm not bigoted either but you get the impression talking, or rather listening to him, would be very much like some contributors on here....the topic of conversations would be himself.

"Money! Money! Money !...it's Tory spending world ! "..( apologies to Abba here ) and lo and behold, here's Javid doing just this......difficult to default to that standard JB mantra " it's all Labours fault !" given Labour can't be, allegedly, trusted with the economy.

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Old 31st Aug 2019, 16:36
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I see from the unfortunate post above that my critic stalker does not understand the purpose of a full stop.

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Old 31st Aug 2019, 22:29
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Old 31st Aug 2019, 23:01
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Oh, don't criticise Krystal. He's a devout Marxist and clearly the utterances of Jeremy and co are uplifting to him.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 07:43
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As it's Sunday, a lighter bit of politics for you all....chaps.

One scored 9 / 12 so one passed......one can see no relevance to being asked inane questions about literary history however....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49485612

Anyway, we are away for a few days on a default non JB approved holiday.... now the rugrat season is over........however, enter The Guardian on Google and you will still be able to read factual and pragmatic quality journalism . < is this a full stop ?
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10/12 for me! Although I have to wonder how Diwali features in a "Knowledge of Britain" quiz! And as for Lord Byron... don't ask!
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 10:11
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
10/12 for me! Although I have to wonder how Diwali features in a "Knowledge of Britain" quiz! And as for Lord Byron... don't ask!
11/12

But I only actually knew four of them, the other seven right answers were guesses.

Perhaps this test is cleverer than it looks, and is actually testing whether you are immersed in British culture to such an extent that you will get most of your guesses right? - because nobody can be expected to actually know or remember all that stuff.
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 10:13
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
. < is this a full stop ?
Is this a question?
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 10:34
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
11/12

But I only actually knew four of them, the other seven right answers were guesses.

Perhaps this test is cleverer than it looks, and is actually testing whether you are immersed in British culture to such an extent that you will get most of your guesses right? - because nobody can be expected to actually know or remember all that stuff.
11/12 for me.

The question I had absolutely no clue about was the first one. Good thing they didn't include any questions on UK monarchy in the quiz. i'm useless on anything pre Victoria, and when it comes to Henry VIII wives, forget it. Can I still live here?
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Old 1st Sep 2019, 11:37
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
The question I had absolutely no clue about was the first one.
That was one of the ones I thought you were supposed to guess, based on, in this case, the subtleties of the language and what would have been most likely on the date in question. If you only knew modern English as a non-native language you'd not be in with so much of a chance - this is why I'm suspecting it's cleverer than it looks. (I guessed that one right.)
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