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Old 7th Jun 2019, 22:16
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Originally Posted by yellowtriumph View Post
I do not think any member of an officially recognised union pays a compulsory levy. Existing members can opt out if they wish
They can and some do. But, I understand, they still get pissed off when the union boss claims to be making political points on behalf of all his (and it does always seem to be a "he") members.
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Old 7th Jun 2019, 22:23
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
They can and some do. But, I understand, they still get pissed off when the union boss claims to be making political points on behalf of all his (and it does always seem to be a "he") members.
But thats not got anything to do with a compulsory political levy though is it. Its actual money that funds the Labour Party, not hot air.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 05:02
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This explains everything............

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...cial-occasions
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 07:36
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Am I the only person who does not have a clue what a "cannabis lassi" is? I have long understood lassi was the name of a dog on TV.
Regardless, who is next? Boris took cocaine, Gove took cocaine, Hunt had a marijuana dog/lassi and Stewart was on opium. I don't care how long ago these indiscretions took place. They were illegal at the time, the leadership contenders were well educated and presumably would have been well aware they were breaking the law yet went ahead and chose to ignore the law. Perhaps the law only applies to the poor people?
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 07:59
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https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...d-oust-dominic

Local Tory activists step up bid to oust Dominic Grieve as their MP over Brexit views

Following a special general meeting of the Beaconsfield Constiuency Conservatives Association on Friday evening, Mr Grieve has been asked to apply for re-adoption as their candidate for the next election. The move is part of the process which must be followed in order to deselect a sitting Tory MP.

In a statement posted on Twitter, Beaconsfield CCA chairman Jackson Ng wrote:

"I understand that there are feelings of disappointment, anger and frustration from many of our membership. Therefore, following this evening's special general meeting and on behalf of our executive council, I have immediately written to our MP Dominic Grieve QC to formally request that he now submits a written application to us to seek his re-adoption as our parliamentary candidate for the next general election expected in 2022."

Under Tory Party rules, Mr Grieve will be invited to make his case for re-adoption as a candidate in person if they wish to. The local executive council then votes on a motion to reselect the MP in a secret ballot. If Mr Grieve wins the vote he will be re-selected to be the candidate. If he loses, he can either request that the entire local party votes in a postal ballot, or put himself up against other candidates who want to fight the seat.

In March, the Beaconsfield party voted 182 to 131 in favour of a motion of no confidence in Mr Grieve, who opposes Brexit and supports a second EU referendum......





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Old 8th Jun 2019, 08:18
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 09:12
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One notes that the Sun is going down the tubes.

Of course they'll spin this as being because of "diesel" and nothing at all whatsoever to do with their support for #brexshit.

I wonder how many others of the hate rags will follow them? - all because of "diesel" of course.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 09:40
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
One notes that the Sun is going down the tubes.

Of course they'll spin this as being because of "diesel" and nothing at all whatsoever to do with their support for #brexshit.

I wonder how many others of the hate rags will follow them? - all because of "diesel" of course.
You're starting to sound paranoid again Gertie.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 10:06
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The Sun going down the tubes?

All newspaper per sales are still dropping at around 10% a year as older buyers drop off the end and the young don’t buy them. But it’s relative. The Sun still outsells the Guardian ten to one - 1.4M vs The Guardian on 140K.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/natio...stortion-ends/
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 10:24
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Before one glibly speaks of hate rags, one should really become familiar with the prose of either Polly Toynbee or Owen Jones, both of whom write, from time to time, for the Guardian. They're the gauging yardsticks for hateful journalism.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 10:28
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This stinks of a political move to instill a sense of national wellbeing (some would say jingoism) into the UK population at a time when, in all liklihood Brexit will be causing grief for our economy, jobs and prospects.

II for one am not going to be taken in, and may well take the opportunity for a long weekend break outside the UK
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 10:32
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
This stinks of a political move to instill a sense of national wellbeing (some would say jingoism) into the UK population at a time when, in all liklihood Brexit will be causing grief for our economy, jobs and prospects.
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...and it reminds me of 'Honor America Day' (Nixon-Period) and Trumps July 4th celebration...
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 11:26
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Or t9 ensure the whole of Europe commemorates the end of WWII at the same time?
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 11:34
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
Am I the only person who does not have a clue what a "cannabis lassi" is? I have long understood lassi was the name of a dog on TV.
Regardless, who is next? Boris took cocaine, Gove took cocaine, Hunt had a marijuana dog/lassi and Stewart was on opium. I don't care how long ago these indiscretions took place. They were illegal at the time, the leadership contenders were well educated and presumably would have been well aware they were breaking the law yet went ahead and chose to ignore the law. Perhaps the law only applies to the poor people?
The most sick-making aspect when the old drug use shite comes around, is how 'dreadfully ashamed' they are. It's a lie, they're not at all. Much better to simply say, "Look, I'm a bit embarassed looking back 'cos I'm s'posed to be a role model, but that was then, this is now. Next question."

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Old 8th Jun 2019, 11:46
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
The most sick-making aspect when the old drug use shite comes around, is how 'dreadfully ashamed' they are. It's a lie, they're not at all. Much better to simply say, "Look, I'm a bit embarassed looking back 'cos I'm s'posed to be a role model, but that was then, this is now. Next question."

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I am assuming this is an attempt to get the skeletons out of the closet before becoming PM. If this is all they can come up with then they are either the most boring crop of individuals or they are going to get hit big time when the real stuff is uncovered when it is too late for fake apologies.

Then again Mr Trump appears to have a past which should have got him thrown out of the politics club but now he's president.

It confirms that none of this matters and will be forgotten if you can actually make a positive impact, history will judge.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 17:41
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Before one glibly speaks of hate rags, one should really become familiar with the prose of either Polly Toynbee or Owen Jones, both of whom write, from time to time, for the Guardian. They're the gauging yardsticks for hateful journalism.
As far as Toynbee is concerned, yes, agreed - the Grauniad do from time to time give space to rather weird characters. I don't know anything about Owen Jones.
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Old 8th Jun 2019, 22:15
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Theresa May already having resigned after their calamitous performance in office.......

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Old 9th Jun 2019, 06:35
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
The Sun going down the tubes?

All newspaper per sales are still dropping at around 10% a year as older buyers drop off the end and the young don’t buy them. But it’s relative. The Sun still outsells the Guardian ten to one - 1.4M vs The Guardian on 140K.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/natio...stortion-ends/
Quality vs quantity ORAC. Can you even begin to imagine how long it would take a Sun reader to progress from the front page , let alone understand the vocabulary, hence the acronym "K.I.S.S " is prominent in Sun editorial compilation .

On the subject of rags, enter the Mail ! Now you might have thunk given his wife has a certain prominence here, that, tacit or even direct support would have been forthcoming, but, sadly ( for Gove ) seemingly not as the headlines have been decidedly condemnatory ......

However, should he actually get the job, it appears that popping over the pond could get a shade problematic ........
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-using-cocaine

Tory sweepstakes......

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...alypse-cartoon

With Labour now trotting to the start line once the above race is finished.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ew-brexit-vote


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Old 9th Jun 2019, 06:49
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The Times.......

Just say no to looking like Gove

However, help may have arrived in tackling London’s most serious (and repulsive) narcotics problem. The hipsters and right-on middle-class metropolitans can no longer pretend that cocaine is cool: Michael Gove did it!

You can see him, right now, back in the mid-1990s. “C’mon, mofo, bag me up a couple of grams.” And then singing as he makes his way to the lobby, with apologies to the late Lou Reed: “Up to Westminster, 125, feel sick and dirty more dead than ali-ve . . . I’m waiting for my man.”

There should be a poster at every bus stop. “Kids — don’t do drugs. You might end up like this.”.......

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Old 9th Jun 2019, 07:16
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Fight for the leadership of the Labour Party starting in earnest........

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ew-brexit-vote

Thornberry may face reshuffle after Labour split over new EU vote

Jeremy Corbyn and his inner circle are considering a frontbench reshuffle that could see the shadow foreign secretary, Emily Thornberry, moved as a punishment for insisting that the party must back a second Brexit referendum, according to several senior figures in the party.

There is also growing support from some of Corbyn’s allies, including union leaders close to the leader’s office, for a new contest to be held that could see Tom Watson replaced as deputy leader, following his persistent backing for a public vote on the UK’s exit from the EU.........
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