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Old 25th May 2019, 16:11
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Q: will, maybe more importantly, CAN any positive further progress on BREXIT occur whilst the present government sorts out its leadership issues....consequentially confirming or altering its directional issues after the leadership is decide?
There is no-one to negotiate with.

Post the EU elections this weekend the EU Commission formally dissolves on 1st July and the new Commission and executives will not be formally in place until November - after the next Brexit deadline.

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Old 25th May 2019, 18:40
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
The suggestion about Treeza embarking on a lucrative second career on the lecture circuit, quite reasonable and justified though this proposal would be with past senior politicians in mind, has, in her case, two glaring faults to negate this option. .

The first, is that she has nothing to offer to an audience. Her extended stay at the Home Office is her only notable political achievement and even that was mired in controversy. Why would an audience pay to listen to somebody who, in essence, has nothing to say or attract them in the first place.

The second is that whilst she can address a conference, she's never been comfortable away from the cocoon of Westminster and similar environments when it comes to speaking with, and to, the general public..
Spot on - an excellent post. I cannot imagine anything more gruesome than paying a considerable amount of money for a dinner and then having to sit through the tedium of her guest speaker inconsequential waffling. I only suggested the idea as it seems that every failed politician has been signed up to perform on this circuit and, incredibly, there are those of masochistic disposition prepared to shell out plenty of moolah to suffer. I had George W Bush in mind - not only was he a failed politician and quite the worst President in the last 100 years, he was inarticulate to boot. Yet he has augmented his pension very nicely from $500 a plate diners.

Theresa should should wow them in the aisles. She could revive her signature Dancing Queen number with Call me Dave sidelining with the Lindy Hop. Val Parnell would leap from his grave to promote that!

Yawn . . . .
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Old 25th May 2019, 18:51
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David Cameron has written a book. Can't wait to not buy it.
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Old 25th May 2019, 20:09
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Where would Krystal n chips (self claimed thought police antagonist) be without the Grauniad to guide him?
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Old 25th May 2019, 20:14
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David Cameron has written a book. Can't wait to not buy it.
I`ll wait for a couple of weeks and then buy it from my local charity shop for 20p and not buy any loo rolls for a couple of weeks.
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Old 25th May 2019, 20:30
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I`ll wait for a couple of weeks and then buy it from my local charity shop for 20p and not buy any loo rolls for a couple of weeks.
Our Labour MP, Daniel Zeichner, wandered up to our Lib Dem second-hand bookstall at the Arbury Carnival.

"How much for this?" he asks, holding up a copy of a book by some guy called Boris Johnson.

"Books are a pound each," I says, "but seeing as it's you, and seeing as it's by Boris, I can't see that I could possibly ask more than 50p".

He handed over 50p.

So: I gave away half a book by Boris to a Labour MP, at a loss of 50p to party funds, but it was worth it for the laugh. Whether he used it for loo paper is not recorded - I have met him again since, but we talked about other things (bicycles and #brexshit).
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Old 25th May 2019, 20:42
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Old 25th May 2019, 22:51
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The MPs standing for election appear to be going to have problems winning over their fellow MP's because it appear just about all of them are standing.


Rabb, why on earth would anyone want a minister as PM that negotiated the deal to say he wouldn't support the very deal he negotiated.

Gove, back me to beat Corbyn, I wouldn't trust him to beat eggs.

Stewart, I couldn't serve in a Johnson cabine....... against hard Brexit, another remoaner

Hancock, who? Another remoaner



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Old 25th May 2019, 22:52
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Really, if you have been politically aware during the tenure of an incumbent prime minister, what are they going to tell you that you don't know? They certainly aren't going to be impartial. They will probably skim over petty details - John Major and Edwina Currie spring to mind - Tony Blair and his life style coach - John Prescott and . . . - Jeremy and his squeeze (pick your Jeremy).
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Old 25th May 2019, 22:54
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If you have a political party that is led by a Marxist, has a Marxist as its Secretary of the Treasury in waiting, has a Marxist as a Chief of Propaganda and has a defined and significant force of supporting riff raff, Communists, Marxists and other such things masquerading under the red label of Momentum, how can anyone who votes for them be described as anything other than a Marxist.
There is no more Labour Party and all those who profess to vote Labour in any future election are but dissembling and diverting from their real direction of voting which is, of course, as I hope has been made very clear, Marxist.
Next time you spot a Vote Labour sign outside some deranged mans house, allow your imagination to flash the word Marxist and you'll be spot on for the direction of dangerous delusional derangement of the dippy dweller.
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Old 26th May 2019, 00:07
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
If you have a political party that is led by a Marxist, has a Marxist as its Secretary of the Treasury in waiting, has a Marxist as a Chief of Propaganda and has a defined and significant force of supporting riff raff, Communists, Marxists and other such things masquerading under the red label of Momentum, how can anyone who votes for them be described as anything other than a Marxist.
There is no more Labour Party and all those who profess to vote Labour in any future election are but dissembling and diverting from their real direction of voting which is, of course, as I hope has been made very clear, Marxist.
You've given us the upside - what's the downside?
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Old 26th May 2019, 06:14
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As we know, the UK's premier media source, like wot the Gruadian indisputably is, ( this view is not, sadly, entirely universal here on JB ) is often accused of being partisan.

Here's a couple of rags that can be defined as such.

Funny that Gove, presumably not having his sleep disturbed this time with his aspirations, should use the M.o.S for example...nowt to do with his wife and whom she's employed by of course.....

And the Excess.....who, strangely, have been supporting Nige for some considerable time now.....subject to weather warnings of death and destruction / statins, / miracle cures and other lurid headlines in lieu......

After a brief hiatus, we note the attempt to gain an entry into the Guiness Book of Records has resumed momentum with a post containing no less than six references to?......Marxists!........ . It's only a matter of time ,


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48411490

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Old 26th May 2019, 08:40
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Anyone got odds on the Con MPs selecting 2 remainers to be put before the Party membership vote?
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Old 26th May 2019, 08:55
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If we have a general election and if Labour wins, I vote we should all troop off to cavortingcheetah's gaff where we can watch him/her go into such a spin, he will disappear up his own fundament! Calm down man! This fetish will do you no good.
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Old 26th May 2019, 08:59
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
If you have a political party that is led by a Marxist, has a Marxist as its Secretary of the Treasury in waiting, has a Marxist as a Chief of Propaganda and has a defined and significant force of supporting riff raff, Communists, Marxists and other such things masquerading under the red label of Momentum, how can anyone who votes for them be described as anything other than a Marxist.
There is no more Labour Party and all those who profess to vote Labour in any future election are but dissembling and diverting from their real direction of voting which is, of course, as I hope has been made very clear, Marxist.
Next time you spot a Vote Labour sign outside some deranged mans house, allow your imagination to flash the word Marxist and you'll be spot on for the direction of dangerous delusional derangement of the dippy dweller.
We are repeatedly told by Brexitters that the message on the Big Red Bus wasn't what it implied, and if people were too stupid to understand that was just their fault.

Exactly the same applies to Vote Labour signs. People will vote without understanding the implications.

​Brexit will be followed by a Labour government. Get used to the idea.
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Old 26th May 2019, 09:52
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Much more likely to be a hung parliament I would have thought. Still let's see what the EU elections bring. I have no predictive powers so no need to get used to any ideas I might come up with.
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Old 26th May 2019, 10:01
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Originally Posted by Blossy View Post
Where would Krystal n chips (self claimed thought police antagonist) be without the Grauniad to guide him?
The Guardian/Labour believe that everyone should get free houses and more benefits. I am sure if the Brexit Party said the same he would be shouting for them.
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Old 26th May 2019, 13:30
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
We are repeatedly told by Brexitters that the message on the Big Red Bus wasn't what it implied, and if people were too stupid to understand that was just their fault.

Exactly the same applies to Vote Labour signs. People will vote without understanding the implications.

​Brexit will be followed by a Labour government. Get used to the idea.
I agree the likely outcome is a Labour lead government, but depending upon just how much of a mess the 100,000 or so retired colonels and pensioned off WI members make of the upcoming Tory party leadership election (or if you prefer PM anointment) I think a more likely outcome will be a coalition, with Labour / SNP or Labour / LibDem - perhaps Lab / LibDem / SNP - which would, as an upside temper the worst excesses of Corbyn, and if you're of that persuasion (and no Brexit deal has been finalised by the time the election comes) the very real potential for a new referendum or cancellation of Art.50 (both potential coalition partners would be demanding either one or the other).
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Old 26th May 2019, 13:51
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The Guardian/Labour believe that everyone should get free houses and more benefits. I am sure if the Brexit Party said the same he would be shouting for them.
Commendable though this suggestion is, I've yet to see it on any Labour manifesto. That said, they have promised to halt the swaging and malicious policy cuts imposed on benefit recipients which is a vote winner alone.

Alas, in case you have missed my sentiments, may I confirm I 'm not exactly a rabid supporter of Farage so unlikely to vote for this hologram party.
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Old 26th May 2019, 14:26
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
Our Labour MP, Daniel Zeichner, wandered up to our Lib Dem second-hand bookstall at the Arbury Carnival.

"How much for this?" he asks, holding up a copy of a book by some guy called Boris Johnson.

"Books are a pound each," I says, "but seeing as it's you, and seeing as it's by Boris, I can't see that I could possibly ask more than 50p".

He handed over 50p.

So: I gave away half a book by Boris to a Labour MP, at a loss of 50p to party funds, but it was worth it for the laugh. Whether he used it for loo paper is not recorded - I have met him again since, but we talked about other things (bicycles and #brexshit).
Thanks for that Gertrude. Do you remember how many pages Boris` book had. I `ve got to get the one with most pages, for a good Brexshit. Al the daily papers are not worth the paper they are written on.
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