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Old 23rd May 2019, 12:43
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This is what I find really annoying. It is perfectly clear that this bill in this incarnation will not pass. Instead of accepting that and getting out of the way, May is again kicking the doomed can down the road. Are the politicians spending that time working out the best way forward? No they are taking a holiday from the 23rd of May until the 4th of June. I think it was Tusk who said "don't waste this time" when the previous extension was granted, but that is all that the Government has done so far. She really has to go, and immediately.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 13:31
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Looks like she isn’t going anywhere and they’re going to have to go in and drag her out kicking and screaming. Now doing a reshuffle as if she can just carry on as if nothing happened yesterday.....

Downing Street has just announced

Mel Stride, the Treasury minister, will become leader of the Commons.

Jesse Norman, the transport minister, will replace Stride as financial secretary to the Treasury and paymaster general.

Michael Ellis, a culture minister, replaces Norman as transport minister.

And Rebecca Pow joins the government, replacing Ellis as culture minister.

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Old 23rd May 2019, 13:53
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Looks like she isn’t going anywhere and they’re going to have to go in and drag her out kicking and screaming. Now doing a reshuffle as if she can just carry on as if nothing happened yesterday.....

Downing Street has just announced

Mel Stride, the Treasury minister, will become leader of the Commons.

Jesse Norman, the transport minister, will replace Stride as financial secretary to the Treasury and paymaster general.

Michael Ellis, a culture minister, replaces Norman as transport minister.

And Rebecca Pow joins the government, replacing Ellis as culture minister.

Any self-respecting cabinet minister would grow a pair and resign a la Leadsom and bring an end to this miserable administration.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 13:56
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Here is a realistic assessment of how we got ourselves into this mess over Brexit and what may or may not be possible to cope with the problems:-

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Old 23rd May 2019, 14:09
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Looks like she isn’t going anywhere and they’re going to have to go in and drag her out kicking and screaming. Now doing a reshuffle as if she can just carry on as if nothing happened yesterday.....

Downing Street has just announced

Mel Stride, the Treasury minister, will become leader of the Commons.

Jesse Norman, the transport minister, will replace Stride as financial secretary to the Treasury and paymaster general.

Michael Ellis, a culture minister, replaces Norman as transport minister.

And Rebecca Pow joins the government, replacing Ellis as culture minister.

I wonder if any of these will bother to take over their new offices? Their civil servants won't be expecting them to be staying very long.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 15:56
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The Beeb were reporting a large plume of black smoke could be seen over London earlier. Being charitable, presumably this excludes a pyre, or, it could be the way the Tory party announces it has a new leader......apparently not.

Anyway, apart from Boris, there are other contenders and here's Dominic, now presumably aware of where Dover is, doing his Boris protégé impression. ....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...election-video
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Old 23rd May 2019, 16:01
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No doubt those 17 contenders will all be fighting for the job just as soon as Theresa throws in the towel.

Or as the old saying goes:

"Cast ne'er a clout till May be out."
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Old 23rd May 2019, 16:55
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When TM was Home Secretary she gained a reputation for being stubborn and bloody difficult. I hadn't realised that this attitude was driven by gross stupidity until she became PM.

There was me thinking that the voters in the USA back in 2016 had a tough choice, between two equally appalling candidates. Little did I realise that we'd find ourselves in an even bigger mess.

Frankly I'm struggling to see any possible new PM out of any of them, from any party.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 21:24
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Please not Gove, he comes over as a slimy creepy character..

Still when TM leaves we might finally get some clarity, hopefully a genuine Brexiteer that will go back to the EU and actually negotiate a treaty and not simply roll over as TM did.

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Old 23rd May 2019, 22:06
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Originally Posted by G0ULI View Post
Well the weather is fine today, so should be a good turnout at the polling stations.
Didn't feel that high at the polling stations I was at - struggling to reach one voter per minute for most of the day is about normal for local elections. Still, we'll know very shortly.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 23:41
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It was quiet at the primary school we have voted at for years, well it was only to be expected as when I looked at the card I found they had moved locations lol, the new venue had a steady stream of voters this evening.
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Old 24th May 2019, 02:08
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I voted about 1700 and for the first time I had to queue up. A quick glance at the poll clerk's sheet saw more names underlined than was the case when voting at a similar time in the recent local elections but still under 50% of the names.
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Old 24th May 2019, 04:33
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It's a shame neither Peter O'Sullevan or Michael O'Hehir are no longer available to comment on this race but even if they were the turgidity and quality of the participants would stretch even their legendary commentating styles.............

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ce-theresa-may

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ering-eu-anger

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Old 24th May 2019, 07:15
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:16
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Thank goodness TM has finally seen that her position is untenable and resigned. Taken her long enough.
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:20
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Were the tears a clue that there may be some human DNA in there after all?
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:21
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Nicely timed to ensure she can take tea with Trump.....# loser May !

A bit delayed as we know, but, finally.......


We all remember a certain big red bus, and the fallacy wot was writ on the side......Treeza's version was remarkably similar .....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-46225949

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Old 24th May 2019, 09:28
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So she staggers past May 29 to beat Gordon Brown. Pathetic, utterly pathetic.
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:49
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Dressed in red too, perhaps she is thinking of swopping sides and destroying their party as well.
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Old 24th May 2019, 09:50
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So she staggers past May 29 to beat Gordon Brown. Pathetic, utterly pathetic.
Well, it remains to be seen whether her replacement can do a better job.
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