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Old 22nd May 2019, 15:34
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Simple Sally, they would probably not get 10% or more votes. In our region one independent group has 5 candidates. If they feature at all they % is negligible. I know the lead candidate of this group. I only found out from someone that he had won a District Council seat. I looked him up and found he was standing for the EU. I then heard him on local radio; he had the death slot - first day with others no doubt vying for today's final slot.
I never said the other parties had a chance, only that they had been left off a numbered definitive list as if they did not exist.
The list as amended is now correct.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 15:46
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Numerous tweets from correspondents saying at least 4 cabinet ministers have arranged to see TM this afternoon and claiming offers of referendum and customs union in yesterday’s speech were not agreed at yesterday’s cabinet meeting.

Multiple possible resignations in the cards cards as many members saying any cabinet minister who did agree has no chance in election for next leader.

Also rumours 22 Committee executive meeting to change rules to allow immediate vote to elect new leader.

TM could be gone before the end of the day - especially after ConservativeHome advised all members to abstain in EU election if she was still in place tomorrow....




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Old 22nd May 2019, 18:54
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Andrea Leadsom resigns.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 19:13
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We talk of decapitation; what would happen should the Cabinet, baring one or two, resign? A leader without any followers . . .
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Old 22nd May 2019, 19:24
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Old 22nd May 2019, 19:44
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There is a person posting in this thread with remarkably similar rantings,albeit with a different username......
That`s good to hear. I will pack my ouija board away.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
We talk of decapitation; what would happen should the Cabinet, baring one or two, resign? A leader without any followers . . .
Had something vaguely similar at college.

The JCR committee kept wittering on about some commie campaign or other that they thought the JCR ought to be interested in, so the JCR mandated the lot of them to attend the demo.

Whoops. As the committee were all in their third year, and actually quite keen on passing their exams, they weren't very keen on being forced to take a day off revision to go to some demo. So, because they were refusing to do what the meeting mandated, they had to resign.

All of them.

Which made calling new elections, as needed to elect their replacements, tricky, because calling an out-of-sequence election had, according to the constitution, to be agreed by the committee ... and there wasn't one.
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Old 22nd May 2019, 21:20
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The departure of the leader of the Extreme Tupperware Party, Westminster faction, is going to lead to some interesting telly in the morning. Doesn't Mrs Leadsom present Parliamentary Business questions on a Thursday morning? And wouldn't that normally provide the opportunity for Mrs Leadsom to introduce stuff on behalf of the Prime Minister? Stuff such as the Withdrawal Agreement Bill?
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Old 22nd May 2019, 21:57
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The departure of the leader of the Extreme Tupperware Party, Westminster faction, is going to lead to some interesting telly in the morning. Doesn't Mrs Leadsom present Parliamentary Business questions on a Thursday morning? And wouldn't that normally provide the opportunity for Mrs Leadsom to introduce stuff on behalf of the Prime Minister? Stuff such as the Withdrawal Agreement Bill?
Thats one of her published reasons for leaving - she doesn't want to present a bill she fundamentally disagrees with. No doubt there is a deputy to do it.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 07:20
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With the Marxists poised to attain power in the UK, you have to look at the wreckage of the Conservative Party, the atrocious state of the country's morale and wonder whether Theresa May isn't the finest deep cover agent the Russians have ever had.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 07:46
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However much one might criticise May, and you won't find me at the back of the queue, the fact is that whoever was in that position would still be trapped between the two irreconcilable wings of the Tory party.
Taking over from Cameron was what I believe is called a hospital pass.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:02
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With the Marxists poised to attain power in the UK, you have to look at the wreckage of the Conservative Party, the atrocious state of the country's morale and wonder whether Theresa May isn't the finest deep cover agent the Russians have ever had.
Oh Dear, what Time Warp did you fall out of??? Putin may be many things but a Marxist is not one of them.

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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:16
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
However much one might criticise May, and you won't find me at the back of the queue, the fact is that whoever was in that position would still be trapped between the two irreconcilable wings of the Tory party.
Taking over from Cameron was what I believe is called a hospital pass.
Whilst it would be fair to say any sympathy I have for Treeza is non existent, in principle I would agree with your assessment. Equally, nobody, as far as we know, actually forced Treeza to apply in the first place.

As you mentioned Dave though, it will be interesting as I may have mentioned before, as to how his departure is covered, or spun, in Dave's Big Book of Achievements, still, as yet, unpublished.....wonder why that might be ?

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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:21
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Nobody is going to suffer an injury lifting that particular tome off the shelf.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:21
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Originally Posted by MAINJAFAD View Post
Oh Dear, what Time Warp did you fall out of??? Putin may be many things but a Marxist is not one of them.
That's not really surprising, if you look back at CCs posts he/she seems to manage to squeeze a reference to Marxism into probably 50% of them.....


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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
However much one might criticise May, and you won't find me at the back of the queue, the fact is that whoever was in that position would still be trapped between the two irreconcilable wings of the Tory party.
Taking over from Cameron was what I believe is called a hospital pass.
Sallyanne, I am not convinced that would be the case, it is May’s approach to Brexit that has got the Westminster lot in the state they are in now, a different approach from the beginning might have had a different outcome, however, I do accept that whoever takes over from May will not be able to change the parlous state that Westminster is now in.

I reckon the only way to break them out of the deadlock that they have caused themselves, is by one of two drastic measures:

1. Revoke Article 50.
2. Leave by default.

I would hazard a guess that the outcry if option 2 was taken would be the greatest.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 08:33
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Nobody is going to suffer an injury lifting that particular tome off the shelf.
It would be interesting to know how many copies have been ordered for the first print run.
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Old 23rd May 2019, 11:01
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
We talk of decapitation; what would happen should the Cabinet, baring one or two, resign? A leader without any followers . . .
To quote

In 2015, during his tumultuous tenure as Speaker of the House, Ohio congressman John Boehner left us with this thought on leadership: ,

"A leader without followers is simply a man (or woman) taking a walk." .
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Old 23rd May 2019, 11:22
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Theresa May shelves plans to publish Brexit Withdrawal bill following Cabinet mutiny


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...iny/ar-AABNimO
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Old 23rd May 2019, 11:23
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Well the weather is fine today, so should be a good turnout at the polling stations. I don't care who you vote for, just so long as you all get out there and vote! This may be your last chance to have any influence on how Brexit pans out. Don't say you weren't warned or you didn't know what you are voting for...
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