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Old 9th May 2019, 21:01
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GTW, not knowing the system would seem quite likely.
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Old 9th May 2019, 21:06
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Nutloose, don't confuse Indian and Pakistani arranged marriages. The Indian system is more akin to the not that distant British system. One family I stayed with, the son said he was happy for his father to find a bride. He was confident that his father would make a good choice.
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Old 9th May 2019, 22:15
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Nutloose, don't confuse Indian and Pakistani arranged marriages. The Indian system is more akin to the not that distant British system. One family I stayed with, the son said he was happy for his father to find a bride. He was confident that his father would make a good choice.
An Indian tour guide enlivened the bus journey by reading us some of the matrimonial ads from the back of the newspaper, and then told us how to decode him.

He then told us how he first met his wife. It had been arranged by the families, and he had a brochure all about his future wife.

Which included her name, and where she worked. So he got on his moped and went round to her office at lunchtime, and asked for her at reception.

When she saw him she recognised him (because of course she had a brochure on him) and was horrified at him turning up: "we're not supposed to meet before the wedding!".

"I'm not marrying someone I don't know," he said, "so either you get on the back of my bike and we go out to lunch, or it's all off." She got on the back of his bike.

(Sorry if you've read this before, but there might be some new people here since I last told this story.)
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Old 9th May 2019, 22:26
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Here we are again going down the immigration rabbit hole and trying to determine which are desirable or undesirable, by skin colour!

It's really got very little to do with what colour, or where people come from. It's the unsustainable volume that is the issue! The racial undertone is unnecessary and largely irrelevant. If the white British birthrate was out of control and causing the same issues as uncontrolled immigration, then we should, as a country, be debating that point.

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Old 9th May 2019, 22:41
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Originally Posted by andrewn View Post
If the white British birthrate was out of control and causing the same issues as uncontrolled immigration, then we should, as a country, be debating that point.
The white British birthrate, unlike immigration, is "out of control", in that there are no controls we could apply to it even if we wanted to.
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Old 10th May 2019, 05:55
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On the subject of budgets, and finances, here's the latest "slight miscalculation " ..... we can only imagine the sighs of envy at a large (ish) airfield on the Fylde whose expertise in this respect has long been "world class ", now outdone by a Dept once headed by Treeza.....who plonked her thumb print on the "sign here " space at the time. There's no mention of Grayling, but, there again, he's always been well ahead of her and everybody else anyway.

Although to be almost fair, any project involving the Gov't and advances in technology doesn't usually have a happy outcome.....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ork-costs-rise

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Old 10th May 2019, 06:58
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Old 10th May 2019, 07:16
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
The white British birthrate, unlike immigration, is "out of control", in that there are no controls we could apply to it even if we wanted to.

Gov figures show that white UK birth rate is indeed out of control, on a downward spiral in fact, has been for decades
The same figures also show that the increase in UK population is only possible because of immigration and the offspring of immigrants, without them it would have declined.
It's a fact that everyone seems afraid to mention, I wonder why

Here is one sentence from the survey with a number that you might like to consider the effect of......" In 2017, the English region with the highest percentage of live births to women born outside the UK was London (57.9%)"

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Old 10th May 2019, 10:10
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Gov figures show that white UK birth rate is indeed out of control, on a downward spiral in fact, has been for decades
The same figures also show that the increase in UK population is only possible because of immigration and the offspring of immigrants, without them it would have declined.
It's a fact that everyone seems afraid to mention, I wonder why

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Its not mentioned because it is considered irrelevant. People are people, regardless of colour, ancestral background or religion.
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Old 10th May 2019, 23:47
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After another thrilling week of gawking at what passes for parliamentary process and government in the land on the edge of the evil empire, news arrives of a far greater importance than the birth of Archie Sparkles.

Mukesh Ambani, whose Bombay home has been estimated as having cost him between $1 and $2 billion to build, has bought Hamleys for an utterly miserable £70 million.

The privileged Londoners of today will never know the thrill of being taken to look at the Christmas window displays at Hamleys in a bombed out London after the war. We were never allowed in of course, just permitted to look at the Regent Street lights in the cold December rain and drizzle, That was an ultimate treat and if, as it often did then, it snowed in the week before Christmas? Wowzers!. The only greater Christmas treat in those days was to walk around the outside of Selfridges, the ne plus ultra of Christmas window displays.
I suspect this is a good example of a Bombay Duck for Britain.
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Old 11th May 2019, 05:49
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
After another thrilling week of gawking at what passes for parliamentary process and government in the land on the edge of the evil empire, news arrives of a far greater importance than the birth of Archie Sparkles.

Mukesh Ambani, whose Bombay home has been estimated as having cost him between $1 and $2 billion to build, has bought Hamleys for an utterly miserable £70 million.

The privileged Londoners of today will never know the thrill of being taken to look at the Christmas window displays at Hamleys in a bombed out London after the war. We were never allowed in of course, just permitted to look at the Regent Street lights in the cold December rain and drizzle, That was an ultimate treat and if, as it often did then, it snowed in the week before Christmas? Wowzers!. The only greater Christmas treat in those days was to walk around the outside of Selfridges, the ne plus ultra of Christmas window displays.
I suspect this is a good example of a Bombay Duck for Britain.
Hay point hof horder here perleese !

Tis a breach hof etiquette and protocoal to besmirch the name hof a contributor to these hallowed forums.....sah !

I refer you to the inclusion of one Mr. B. Duck here, who is a very nice man and very knowledgeable about cricket...indeed his national team will be gracing our shores later this year to join others in the traditional past time of ( former ) Colonial upstarts having the temerity to beat England......at home.

Here's Ms Hyde, for those who enjoy her satire.....and for those who don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...som-raab-baker

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Old 11th May 2019, 06:51
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
Its not mentioned because it is considered irrelevant. People are people, regardless of colour, ancestral background or religion.
Bollox, It's not mentioned because people have been beaten with the stick of being labeled Racist and this is usually pointed out by someone who is far more concerned about what colour they are dealing with than the person accused

Meanwhile we have the confrontational hypocrisy of the MOBO Awards
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Old 11th May 2019, 08:54
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Hmm. Unfortunately when it is relevant it still isn't mentioned. People aren't just people, we are the products of our individually and culture and sometimes culture matters. It can be misused though: I once heard scurrilous statements that the NY mafia was mainly a product of people with Sicilian backgrounds, and something similar about the IRA, though the link between Ireland and Sicily eludes me.
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Old 11th May 2019, 09:10
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though the link between Ireland and Sicily eludes me.
Money? It seems unlikely that the Mafia and the IRA have never had any business dealings.
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Old 11th May 2019, 09:18
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I suspect is Catholicism a more relevant connection in that instance, money being a more universal binder regardless of anything else
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Old 11th May 2019, 09:36
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Serves me right for trying to be funny
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Old 11th May 2019, 17:17
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Point of rebuttal?
Mr B Duck as referred to was not that Mr B Duck but rather the stinky kind so beloved of female first generation ersatz colonials who confuse China with India and then wonder why they die of dysentery on account of earring unwashed raw lettuce in the latter rather than steamed pak choi in the former.
Mrs Hyde, although cynical, sardonic, occasionally humorous and from time to time well enough informed, is not satirist. She is, to paraphrase and extend slightly the words of Mr Justice Tugendhat, a tease and an employer of irony.
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Old 11th May 2019, 18:11
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Serves me right for trying to be funny


Don't worry I did get it...and that the last sentence was not really looking for an answer
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Old 11th May 2019, 20:26
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That well known Conservative rag - The Grauniad....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-combined-poll

Brexit party may get more EU election votes than Tories and Labour combined – poll

Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is on course to secure more support at the European elections than the Tories and Labour combined, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage, the poll suggests more than a third of voters will back him on 23 May. It puts his party on 34% of the vote, with less than a fortnight before the election takes place. The poll suggests support for the Conservatives has collapsed amid the Brexit uncertainty, with Theresa May’s party on just 11%. Labour is a distant second, on 21%.

Just a fortnight ago, the Brexit party was neck-and-neck with Labour on 28%. Now it has a 13-point lead over Jeremy Corbyn’s party.The Conservatives are now only narrowly ahead of the Brexit party when voters are asked who they would vote for at a general election. The Tories are on 22% support, down 4% on a fortnight ago, with the Brexit party on 21% backing. Labour leads on 28%, but is down five points on the last poll........

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Old 11th May 2019, 23:01
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That well known Conservative rag - The Grauniad....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-combined-poll

Brexit party may get more EU election votes than Tories and Labour combined – poll

Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is on course to secure more support at the European elections than the Tories and Labour combined, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage, the poll suggests more than a third of voters will back him on 23 May. It puts his party on 34% of the vote, with less than a fortnight before the election takes place. The poll suggests support for the Conservatives has collapsed amid the Brexit uncertainty, with Theresa May’s party on just 11%. Labour is a distant second, on 21%.

Just a fortnight ago, the Brexit party was neck-and-neck with Labour on 28%. Now it has a 13-point lead over Jeremy Corbyn’s party.The Conservatives are now only narrowly ahead of the Brexit party when voters are asked who they would vote for at a general election. The Tories are on 22% support, down 4% on a fortnight ago, with the Brexit party on 21% backing. Labour leads on 28%, but is down five points on the last poll........
Well it's hardly surprising. This poll is effectively a second referendum. Why vote for either Labour or Tory when both of them are split down the middle on Brexit?

Those who still want to leave will of course vote for Farage's party, since they seem to have taken over from UKIP.

Those who want to stay in the EU will be split four ways - between UKEUP, Libdems, Greens and Change UK. And many of them - like me - will stay at home because the whole exercise is futile..

The result is never in doubt.
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