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Old 20th Apr 2019, 20:37
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It does say "open" rather than "opened".
Don't you put a stopper on that expensive part-used spirits bottle?
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 20:49
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
Someone discharged a firearm into a crowd. Whether or not Ms McKee was expressly targeted it’s not by any stretch an accident.
The world is rightfully condemming the murder but the idea she was targeted is one I struggle with.

She is not a "known" journalist but called as a "Citizen" journalist, basically a blogger who occasionally gets some freelance paid work. Published of a number of books which not seem to have set the world alight in readership or sales, not doubt this already changed.

The likelihood of rioters knowing en masse who she was is quite small so put it down to wrong place, wrong time. Possibility of shooter knowing her is a possibility but when people have to ask themselves "Who" it starts to show how unknown she was. Not her fault just reality.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 21:01
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
Someone discharged a firearm into a crowd. Whether or not Ms McKee was expressly targeted it’s not by any stretch an accident.
The world is rightfully condemming the murder but the idea she was targeted is one I struggle with.

She is not a "known" journalist but called as a "Citizen" journalist, basically a blogger who occasionally gets some freelance paid work. Published of a number of books which not seem to have set the world alight in readership or sales, not doubt this already changed.

The likelihood of rioters knowing en masse who she was is quite small so put it down to wrong place, wrong time. Possibility of shooter knowing her is a possibility but when people have to ask themselves "Who" it starts to show how unknown she was. Not her fault just reality.
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 22:21
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Perhaps you now have the reason for so many of Abbott's obscure if not to say gibbering public pronouncements during television and radio interviews. Should she be drowned in a barrel of deep and dark Malmsey?
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 05:09
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
What’s really repugnant is that Krystal sees this vile murder as nothing more than a cynical opportunity to plug his anti-UKIP agenda
It appears you lack the cognitive ability to distinguish between two entirely separate statements.... contained in one post

The first of which was a response to HQ's comment about the seemingly lack of coverage re this murder.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 07:16
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“dissident group allegedly responsible...Talking of which...”: Your implied link is pretty clear. But your lame back-pedalling duly noted.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 07:49
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
The "carry open containers" bit seems somewhat unreasonable to me. Not everybody finishes an expensive bottle of whisky or brandy in a single session, so how are you supposed to get the rest home?
I generally leave the unfinished glass in the Club should I have to leave before emptying it.😁

s me of the time I wandered into the office one Saturday night. The lads were busy working on something I couldn't help with, so I'd just called in with a bottle of some single malt to pass around, to keep up morale ("as moralled as newts" was a frequent saying in that company)
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That surely is an offence in its own right. 😀
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 09:41
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About that argument that we don’t need chlorinated chicken because European poultry farming standards are so much higher than in the USA....

https://www.dw.com/en/chicken-meat-r...ugs/a-48365258
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 12:44
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A nice try, but the article is about the result of overuse of antibiotics in factory farming, which is even worse in the US.

Chlorinating chicken is widespread in the US because it allows the most intensive and unhygienic practises in rearing and slaughtering, but it is not the worst issue.
Consider their use of growth hormones in cattle, and Ractopamine that is banned in most civilised countries.

These are what the US want to be accepted into the UK as part of a trade deal. The EU is strong enough to resist such a demand. Is the UK?
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 12:45
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Someone turned Diane Abbott into every M&S canned cocktail and it’s glorious


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Old 21st Apr 2019, 14:07
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What's with a politician's Easter message?
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 16:32
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Originally Posted by G-CPTN View Post
Yea what the ******* hell is that?, gawd I hate propoganda especialy when it's attempted disguise as something with validity is so pathetic
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 17:18
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Yea what the ******* hell is that?, gawd I hate propoganda especialy when it's attempted disguise as something with validity is so pathetic
Yes how dare she mentioned Christians and Persecution at Easter, especially on same day 200 Christians are slaughted in churches in Sri Lanka.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 18:48
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Yes how dare she mentioned Christians and Persecution at Easter, especially on same day 200 Christians are slaughted in churches in Sri Lanka.
You missed the point, it's got nothing to do with the subject matter used, when the **** did the prime minister start giving out Easter messages?, does she think she is the queen or something?
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 18:59
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Or even the Pope?
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 19:09
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Originally Posted by Hyperdark View Post
You missed the point, it's got nothing to do with the subject matter used, when the **** did the prime minister start giving out Easter messages?, does she think she is the queen or something?
So what is wrong with PM giving out any message ?

https://muslimnews.co.uk/news/uk/ram...r-theresa-may/
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 19:56
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Ramadan Kareem means "may Ramadan be generous to you" but there is some debate as to if it should be used during Ramadan.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 22:40
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Ractopamine may be banned in Russia and China but that's more than likely because its use in American export meat has been used by the said countries as a trade war weapon.
The fact that the additive is accepted in Japan, South Korea and Malaysia, countries whose medical standards are arguably higher than those of the EU reflect the fact that there is no cohort study on the effect of Ractopamine on humans. The case for ill effects consequent on the consumption of meat from animals treated with the additive is unproved.
There is also no current medical study to disprove the suggestion, sometimes made in more radical medical circles, that any effects of Ractopamine are neutralised by excessive consumption of alcohol. Were this hypothesis ever to be proved correct then the use of even very significant quantities of Ractopamine in meat products consumed in Britain and the Republic of Ireland would be of little consequence.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 05:29
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Things to do in Nottingham ( depending on your level of boredom ) .......and the fledgling had an impeccable parentage please note......old habits die hard as they say...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...party-election
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 05:32
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Poll of Conservative party members in Conservative Home, their core support. Assuming that the general public who usually vote for them is even more likely to follow the same trend, the Conservatives look like being wiped out at the EU elections. Even with PR and regional lists they risk returning no more than a handful of MEPs.




This the same panel that last month supported the Prime Minister’s deal by 60 per cent to 36 per cent (however reluctanty). And that in 2017 backed her Joint Report Agreement, which saw the debut of the backstop, by 73 per cent to 22 per cent. So it isn’t a mass of UKIP-leaning purpleheads: indeed, Gerard Batten’s party wins a mere six votes out of over 1100 in this survey. None the less, the result is the most astonishing we have ever published, and provokes the question: can it possibly be right?

It is extraordinary that three out of five Party members could say that they will vote for different party altogether. But there are at least four reasons why it could be on the money.

First, sheer anger with the postponement of Brexit after it had been promised over 100 times for March 29, at Theresa May’s talks with Jeremy Corbyn…and at these elections being teed up in the first place. Second, a sense that they provide an opportunity to protest – a free hit. Rightly or wrongly. Third and consequently, the belief that Nigel Farage provides a respectable pro-Brexit alternative. That he has a party to his right that he can denounce as extreme helps in this regard. Fourth, that a really bad result might prove to be a trigger for leadership change.

And in today’s Mail on Sunday, a poll finds that 40 per cent of Tory councillors will back Farage’s Party in May. If two in five councillors plan to do so, is it really that surprising, after all, that three in five members may too?

At any rate, there can be no doubt that this finding is a reliable guide to the trend.
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