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Old 25th Mar 2019, 13:32
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
Because with the benefit of hindsight it would be possible to prevent extraneous social media based campaigns such as the one that swung 2016 so decisively. I would suggest two stages 1 May deal v No deal and 2. The winner v Remain.

... and you would have first past the post in all rounds?
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 13:43
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Originally Posted by Sprogget View Post
Right, so now we're getting somewhere. So your name calling rant was entirely fact free then, based on nothing more than a personal suspicion whereas the response in which I detailed CA & AIQ's meddling went unacknowledged, good to know if wholly unsurprising. And of you dislike the tone of the response, I suggest you make efforts to understand the basic tenet of human nature that calling people names I.e:



Is reaping what you sow save for I refrained from insulting you personally, something which is inevitably lost on some.
Actually I don't think we are getting anywhere.

I shall continue to think you are a vain, arrogant individual who cannot answer a straight question; you shall continue to reinforce my opinion.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 13:52
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BBC saying things have been postponed until the 12th.

Then gives a list of debates and votes until Friday.

No mention of the secondary legislation to change the leave date...

Now that would be funny if they "forgot"
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Harley Quinn View Post
Actually I don't think we are getting anywhere.

I shall continue to think you are a vain, arrogant individual who cannot answer a straight question; you shall continue to reinforce my opinion.
Bless. Ties himself up in knots of his own making, resorts to insults at the drop of a hat. What's one more angry old leaver in a sea of them? One barely notices them any more, unless they're part of the steady stream from that side making the papers for issuing death threats & the like.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 14:46
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Originally Posted by StAn gelo View Post
So what? Were they 1 million of the people who voted remain first time around,or 1 million people who have changed their mind since,or a mixture of both?
Were they even all eligible (referendum) voters?
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 14:50
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
Sprogget, could you try 10 consecutive post without insulting someone?
Of course not, just like Parapunter couldn't either, when he/she was still active. Strangely that was right up to the moment that Sprogget suddenly became active.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 18:11
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
I guess, while we're in a holding pattern for the next shoe to drop, I have to ask - what exactly was the original Brexit backers' plan for the NI/Eire border once it changed from an internal EU border to an external EU/UK border?
Me Sir! Please Sir! I know that one!

They didn't have a plan. For that in particular, or for anything else either.
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Wasn't it obvious that either 1) the GFA was up the proverbial creek without a paddle, or that 2) there was going to have to be a certain sacrifice of UK sovereignty there? Or did it just slip through the cracks?
Just part of "project fear".
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 18:41
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GTW, did remain include the Irish border in their 'fear'?

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Old 25th Mar 2019, 18:47
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Originally Posted by Sprogget View Post
Bless. Ties himself up in knots of his own making, resorts to insults at the drop of a hat. What's one more angry old leaver in a sea of them? One barely notices them any more, unless they're part of the steady stream from that side making the papers for issuing death threats & the like.
Now that little tirade against the older generation says a lot about your intolerance and paranoia. Do silver surfers scare you? Further proof, if it were needed, of your vicious and nasty little character.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 19:38
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
It's an opinion, like everything posted on here. If you don't like it you know exactly what to do.
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Originally Posted by Sprogget View Post
No one forces you to read my posts. If you don't like them, you know exactly what to do.
Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
We are dealing with a forklift driver with pretensions of management and a professional qualification.

He can sing Judy Garland numbers, hunt unicorns but has zero clue about health and safety regulations but seems to thing he has a clue about economics and trade.

I suspect he also has issues with his prostate.
Debate on here really has sunk to the levels that we can expect to find in... don't know... maybe Parliament?
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 19:48
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There has been zero debate for nearly 2 years on the subject. Nobody has changed there mind, pretty much everyone had there vote set when the ref was started. Pulling the moral high ground will have absolutely zero influence on public opinion.

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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:05
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Tescoapp, not quite. A short while back, before we sank to where we are now, I saw the EU as obstructionist and determined to make Brexit as punitive as possible. To get the whole farago over I would have voted leave.

I have now reverted to remain but not from any superbly persuasive arguments here on in the papers but as simply gut feeling.

However I would not burst into tears if we leave and would expect things to work out better than Project Fear.

I think not a few will be in that middle ground. They may even be that mass that didn't vote.


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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:12
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So you wouldn't be adverse to saying that the nonsense, insults and spouting of shite on PPRuNe has altered you opinions either way?

The next week is going to get some frothing at the mouths.

To be honest I really don't care which way the UK decides to go the last two year has been pretty much fatal to first of all any workable relationship the UK could have with the EU in its present form and secondary the EU's economic health. Its Pretty much fatal from now on it just a matter of when than if. We have a choice of out first or out with 27 other members.

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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:34
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If you had said

So you wouldn't be adverse to saying that the nonsense, insults and spouting of shite on PPRuNe has NOT altered you opinions either way?
. . .
I would agree.

To be honest I really don't care which way the UK decides to go the last two year has been much fatal to first of all any workable relationship the UK could have with the EU in its present form and secondary the EU's economic health. Its Pretty much fatal from now on it just a matter of when than if. We have a choice of out first or out with 27 other members.
Go with that too. Now If the chap in our village who said the French want out and do something about it, short of actually leaving, things could get really interesting and justify leaving.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:36
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I have often thought that any election or referendum should be immediately followed by another vote (on the same topics) - to even out those who were voting without thinking - ie when they saw the result of the first vote they might realise what they had done . . .
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:52
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most people don't vote due to thought. so making them vote twice won't change anything
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 22:11
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
Disgrace to what? Engineers with prostate issues that don't want lumped in with blanket stackers with ideas of grandeur?

To be fair they will more than likely laugh....
Indeed. I'm enjoying this, but not for the reasons you think.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 22:19
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
We are dealing with a forklift driver with pretensions of management and a professional qualification.

He can sing Judy Garland numbers, hunt unicorns but has zero clue about health and safety regulations but seems to thing he has a clue about economics and trade.

I suspect he also has issues with his prostate.

Harsh.

But maybe true,

In fact, I'd pay good money and lots of it, to spend an evening with him in Skidrow on Sea and be there watching when he insults, face to face and not through his keyboard, the more hetero men and non-hetero wimmin Leave voting residents there the way he insults people on here.

Based on a weekend I spent there last year, attending a wedding, we'd probably end up having to take him to the local A&E with a face that would make even Paul Pogba look like an anemic Celt.

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Old 25th Mar 2019, 22:25
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This thread is turning into something completely surreal. The last few posts have made no sense to me. And I've only had half a bottle of Crozes Hermitage.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 22:35
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
This thread is turning into something completely surreal. The last few posts have made no sense to me. And I've only had half a bottle of Crozes Hermitage.
And you with a brewery on your doorstep!
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