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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 09:55
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Dominic Grieve, the leader of the pro EU gang is a bi national, fluent French speaker who broadcasts on French radio, owns a small castle in France and is President of the Anglo French society. Sometimes I think that members of parliament should have to declare in a book of personal interests matters that might blight their voting patterns as well as the straightforward compendium of corruptions.
Making lists is never a good look.

On the other hand, it's a brilliant demonstration of the parochial, inwardly spiralling mind of the little Englander, the the grim cognitive machinations that are destroying our reputation.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 10:43
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Dominic Grieve, the leader of the pro EU gang is a bi national, fluent French speaker who broadcasts on French radio, owns a small castle in France and is President of the Anglo French society. Sometimes I think that members of parliament should have to declare in a book of personal interests matters that might blight their voting patterns as well as the straightforward compendium of corruptions.
You mean something like this ?
https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-...ial-interests/
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 10:46
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Well said cheetah

As for your post pp, what exactly do you mean?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 11:17
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
On the other hand, it's a brilliant demonstration of the parochial, inwardly spiralling mind of the little Englander, the the grim cognitive machinations that are destroying our reputation.
pp, often what it say makes sense , but only after you explain what you meant in the first place. I often get this from Mrs PN too.

Mind you, she also often launches into some statement or such and i lose the first but while i tune my ears/hearing aid s/brain to what she said.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 11:56
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So no comments on the euro turning into the e-euro and a devalued c-euro so people can't horde cash and avoid -3% interest rates.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 11:58
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So no comments on the euro turning into the e-euro and a devalued c-euro so people can't horde cash and avoid -3% interest rates.
Well you're the expert on this and everything else. We're waiting for you to tell us what to think
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:02
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Far from it.

I am just worried it will push the pound high again.

They have zero tools left for this recession because they never stopped using them from the last one.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:02
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I would have thought it obvious, perhaps not, that one who advocates making lists of assets & interests associated with undefined notions of foreignness they dislike for people they dislike as a means of identifying political foes is both cravenly petty, irrelevant & the thin end of the wedge. That it crosses someone's mind on presumably a very lonely journey is instructive of the worst spasms of the nationalist mind.

He owns a castle. IN FRANCE, THE TRAITOR. Really? Is it that hard to grasp?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:12
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I see Grayling is in trouble again, this time for misleading parliament (and everyone else) over the noise levels from Heathrow R3. He's accused of withholding the noise maps.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:44
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Originally Posted by cavortingcheetah View Post
Dominic Grieve, the leader of the pro EU gang is a bi national, fluent French speaker who broadcasts on French radio, owns a small castle in France and is President of the Anglo French society. Sometimes I think that members of parliament should have to declare in a book of personal interests matters that might blight their voting patterns as well as the straightforward compendium of corruptions.
I'm really not sure what point you are making(though I suspect parapunter may be onto something)...we know Dominic Grieve is a Europhile, that's no secret. I'm sure we also know that arch-Brexiter, Nigel Lawson, MT's ex-chancellor, owned a small pile not a million miles from Chez Nous, I believe speaks a bit of French, and has given interviews to local (French) media...and that Nigel Farage has continental connections and JRM has business interests in the Irish Republic.....
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:51
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If it lets us actually build something resembling a national airport he deserves aVictoria Cross rather than criticism. The present cross-party paralysis probably costs us £33m every week!
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 12:53
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Away for a few days and get back to see the same few (p, s & t mostly) still going around in circles.

Donít you lot get dizzy??
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 14:11
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It seems to me that one could make the case that "Little Englanders" are those who prefer to remain in the womb-like embrace of the European Union rather than face the bracing zephyrs of engagement with the rest of the world.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 14:16
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Have a try then. I'll mark it out of ten for you.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 14:59
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
I would have thought it obvious, perhaps not, that one who advocates making lists of assets & interests associated with undefined notions of foreignness they dislike for people they dislike as a means of identifying political foes is both cravenly petty, irrelevant & the thin end of the wedge. That it crosses someone's mind on presumably a very lonely journey is instructive of the worst spasms of the nationalist mind.

He owns a castle. IN FRANCE, THE TRAITOR. Really? Is it that hard to grasp?
Thank you. I am not sure. Certainly knowledge of an individual's position in life can show their bias. JRM certainly lives a very different life from most of us, as does BJ.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 15:04
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Tescoapp:
And how often they eat... And they stick cheese on everything.
Stop being silly! Monterey Jack is hardly what I would call cheese!
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 15:06
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If it lets us actually build something resembling a national airport he deserves aVictoria Cross rather than criticism. The present cross-party paralysis probably costs us £33m every week!
The case for R3 stands by itself. It's not going to help matters if Grayling hides relevant information, giving the local councils further evidence for their objections. His incompetent handling of the ferry business has just cost the country £33 million. How much will it cost if the Heathrow plans are thrown into confusion?

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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 17:44
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ďR3 case stands by itself ď. Perhaps to you and me but thereís a determined cabal from all parties desperate to pull every political lever to derail it.

Re your earlier comment on HS2, I agree thereís other stuff Iíd spend the billions on first. But either way the blame/credit doesnít lie with Grayling. And why is it when, say, France spends squilions on TGV itís far-sighted investment in their infrastructure but when we do, itís government waste?
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 18:00
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May be because when the French have a plan they get on with it. Our HS2 should have been a national plan. The east coast motorway system is also a joke.
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Old 3rd Mar 2019, 18:47
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
ďR3 case stands by itself ď. Perhaps to you and me but thereís a determined cabal from all parties desperate to pull every political lever to derail it.
Which is why Grayling's amateurish fiddling is playing right into their hands

Re your earlier comment on HS2, I agree thereís other stuff Iíd spend the billions on first. But either way the blame/credit doesnít lie with Grayling. And why is it when, say, France spends squilions on TGV itís far-sighted investment in their infrastructure but when we do, itís government waste?
The French have twice our land area - longer distances to travel and more space to accommodate rail tracks.
We have many worn-out and overloaded commuter lines that need fixing before the environmentally destructive HS2 should be built from the taxpayer's open chequebook.
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