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Old 26th Feb 2019, 12:28
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post

, Boris got sacked admittedly fr being even more useless , so what or who is she cared of
I believe he resigned rather than sacked, or you might say jumped before . . .
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 12:59
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
I won't be running away as you put it. I have still capital in the UK and plenty of investments which I envisage doing well in the medium term. I have got rid of my exposure to EU investments because I think they are going to do particularly badly in the same time period. In fact I will be increase my exposure to the UK market significantly in the month of April with any luck.

My UK investments currently are involved with getting 50 odd young people trough good engineering apprenticeships giving skills to the UK job market.
Well let us all hope that there will be a job for them to go to when they finish their courses.

But it won't effect me either way, there will be a recession this summer what ever happens. I have set up for that and in or out.
In a recession the first thing that happens is apprentices are told there's no job for them. Sorry. (BA early 80s, three years of apprentices went into cabin crew, baggage handling and revenue accounts or left the company on a severance package. Many never returned. What a waste.

But, hey well done you for making sure that you're alright jack! Do you have any empathy for those that do not have your business acumen. We can't all be private stock brokers you know. If this recession (depression) is as predicted, enjoy your wealth, the rest of us will be at the food banks!
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:02
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They are already in an above min wage job. And as long as the pound stays below 1.22 it won't effect things. In fact canceling will cause more issues than delay or crash out.
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I do have sympathy for people getting caught up by it through no fault of there own.

​​​​The excuse though from people we can't leave because the UK is not prepared for it tends to come those that complain the most about anything done to prepare for it. It is wearing a bit thin.

I don't have much sympathy though for those that say they said there was going to be deal so I didn't do anything when they could have.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:20
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
They are already in an above min wage job. And as long as the pound stays below 1.22 it won't effect things. In fact canceling will cause more issues than delay or crash out.
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I do have sympathy for people getting caught up by it through no fault of there own.

​​​​The excuse though from people we can't leave because the UK is not prepared for it tends to come those that complain the most about anything done to prepare for it. It is wearing a bit thin.

I don't have much sympathy though for those that say they said there was going to be deal so I didn't do anything when they could have.
Those who get caught up in the inconsequential little matter of redundancy , as you seem to understand redundancy as being, generally have no input or choice.

Re the underlined, you may have missed the extensive use of the word "uncertainty " recently......I wonder why this might be ?

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 15:36
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You’re honestly talking about “uncertainty” having defended Labour’s position?? Not even a ghost of a plan, nothing other than blocking any and every government step. Now they don’t even want to leave at all. Or maybe they do. Who knows? Keeping all options on the table.,,but late for that isn’t it?

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 16:38
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
You’re honestly talking about “uncertainty” having defended Labour’s position?? Not even a ghost of a plan, nothing other than blocking any and every government step. Now they don’t even want to leave at all. Or maybe they do. Who knows? Keeping all options on the table.,,but late for that isn’t it?

Of course Labour has a plan. It's to get into power. As long as they can get Mcdonnell's hands on the Exchequer, they don't care whether Brexit happens or not.
Consequently anything that makes May's job more difficult will be supported. Just at the moment that seems to be to support another referendum
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 16:39
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Anyway, while you're all dwelling on what a terrible person I am, you've all missed the shenanigans the worst PM ever has pulled today. As ever, there is no new strategy, no alternative arrangements, it's all bullshit. May offers a vote on her deal next week, parliament will reject it again since it hasn't changed & will not change. Then MP's get a vote on no deal which they'll buy which leads in turn to a short extension. This takes us to what? July? Wherever. The fly in the ointment is the European elections in May.

If we take part, then article 50 can be extended as often as we like, certain conditions being met. If we don't, then it's unextendable, full stop. July 1st becomes an absolute cliff edge. May clearly plans to use this to her advantage. She'll refuse to take part in those elections, this creates an absolute cut off, the mantra will not change, her crappy deal or no deal & MP's with no other options will have to fall into line, or, join the f****g idiots who would crash out with nothing. This is how she ends, countless lies on countless lies to parliament, the only government ever to be found in contempt of parliament, it's taking an historic deficit of talent to make this pantomime farce work.

Predictions decay rapidly but this is what she has done today, it's as plain as day.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 17:18
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It's not in May's power to offer an extension. She can only request one, which requires agreement by 27 nations. And they will decide what length any extension might be.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 17:22
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It's on offer sufficiently.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 18:51
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“F***ing idiots who’d crash out with nothing “. Presumably including yourself since you’ve expressed scathing disapproval of every deal so far presented. Yes, we get that 2016 was the “wrong” result: In fact I’m with you there. But what’s the pp plan? Hop in your time machine back to 2016? Rerun the referendum as many times as it take to get the “right” result? Unfortunately, endlessly telling us the electorate was wrong/lied to/a bunch of idiots doesn’t amount to a plan.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 18:54
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
It's not in May's power to offer an extension. She can only request one, which requires agreement by 27 nations. And they will decide what length any extension might be.
The EU negotiators have made it quite clear an extension will be granted
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Hyperdark View Post


The EU negotiators have made it quite clear an extension will be granted
But they don't like the idea of two months.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 19:21
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Originally Posted by ShotOne View Post
since you’ve expressed scathing disapproval of every deal so far presented.
You've plucked that out of thin air my old fruity.

I'm not required to present a plan am I? I'm a member of the public, not a government minister.

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 19:49
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
You've plucked that out of thin air my old fruity.

I'm not required to present a plan am I? I'm a member of the public, not a government minister.
No plan required just give an opinion without insults.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:01
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Ooh no insults. You would not believe what I've been called in here...

We have the best deal available. If we must go through with this folly, then the least damaging would be some variation of the Norway arrangement. Four freedoms please.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:11
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
Ooh no insults. You would not believe what I've been called in .
I have seen everything that has been written about you and it is nothing compared to your replies to people’s posts. It is Jet Blast but why start a reply with an insult. Discuss things. If you don’t agree do not resort to insults please.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:15
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I have seen everything that has been written about you and it is nothing compared to your replies to people’s posts. It is Jet Blast but why start a reply with an insult. Discuss things. If you don’t agree do not resort to insults please.
It's classics like this that absolutely do my pickle in this place. You ask a question, I answer it & yet ALL you can manage is to buzz off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the subject at hand & everything to do with your own steaming preoccupations. It's risible, the sheer inability to impose even the least amount of self discipline. No wonder we're in this morass.

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Parapunter View Post
It's classics like this that absolutely do my pickle in this place. You ask a question, I answer it & yet ALL you can manage is to buzz off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the subject at hand & everything to do with your own steaming preoccupations. It's risible, the sheer inability to impose even the least amount of self discipline. No wonder we're in this morass.

Ditto proved
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:59
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Leavers getting decidedly shirty...a straw in the wind maybe?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:33
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Parapunter, I asked earlier, what did you mean by:

superannuated garden botherer?
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