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Old 20th Oct 2018, 23:34
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Passed away

Has anyone noticed that nobody, even animals, ever dies these days? Everybody now "passes away", no matter what the circumstances. I can get it if your old granny, who has been in failing health for some time "passes away" in her sleep, but it's got to the point where I recently heard a police spokesman (person?) saying that two people had passed away in a bad traffic accident. The final straw was on Facebook today when someone was reporting that a missing cat had been found on the road near their house, but unfortunately it had "passed away"!

Seems that every generation has to be squeamish about something. Past generations were reluctant to talk openly about sex and other bodily functions, but now language which would have shocked our grandparents is commonplace. On the other hand simply saying that someone is dead seems to be unacceptable, and some euphemism has to be employed, as though that was going to make the situation less painful. Do any other weasel words exasperate you?

I was going to say we ought to call a spade a spade, but I fear I might have the race relations people down on me!
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 00:19
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For some reason I am reminded of Monty Python’s dead parrot sketch !

“It has passed on, it has ceased to be,” etc.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 00:27
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Do any other weasel words exasperate you?
One or two.
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Wasn't there another thread along these lines just recently?

Ran to several hundred pages.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 00:33
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I saw John Cleese do the Dead Parrot sketch live during the Pythons' Canadian tour.

Even more inventive euphemisms than the TV version, culminating with " 'e f**kin' snuffed it!"

I agree about the "passed away" euphemism. Even worse is "passed"!
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 01:47
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Didn’t the cops in the Las Vegas mass shooting say that the gunman had “passed away” after shooting himself.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 05:12
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The word "killed" seems to be avoided a lot these days too.

For example, "two terrorists, a soldier and thirty member of the public died today in an explosion".

This implies they met their demise in a less than violent manner. I'd suggest, "were killed" fits much better than "died".
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 06:15
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Totally agree re the current trend to use the phrase 'passed away' and agree even more so with India Four Two re the use of 'passed'. Maybe I have been unlucky but a review of the death certificates of my father, mother and sister shows they all died. No passing away in my family!
On the other hand, I have passed many exams in my time and I have passed many other people on the road yet, as far as I am aware, no deaths ensued!
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 06:39
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After the Manchester Arena terrorist bombing, Theresa May claimed lives were "lost" and that relatives had suffered a "loss".

It's not as if the victims were one day going to return !

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Old 21st Oct 2018, 07:42
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Another vote for I42's comment. Next we'll be having "I passed him" and the listener not knowing if I overtook him or killed him.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 07:54
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Now if we acknowledge that passed is related to a Jewish holiday . 😀
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 08:27
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Wasn't there another thread along these lines just recently? Ran to several hundred pages.
Passim....
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 08:39
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Passed away is a particular pet-hate of ours. Earlier this year my wife refused to have 'passed away' in the obituary for her dad when it was suggested, instead insisting on ''died'.
Why do people ponce around when there are perfectly good, accurate words already??
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 09:22
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The fox that passed his brother under a bush ....

There is this thing now with the use of the passive voice, one that avoids all causality and blame. There was a cartoon in the New Yorker where the accused is testifying that "I pointed the gun at him and I squeezed the trigger. Suddenly, a shot rang out!"

The perpetrator and his victim get all mixed up, which is only proper if you agree that nobody is guilty until proven so. Actually, it's merely that under some forms of law those who have been accused are giving "the presumption of innocence," which is not the same thing at all as innocence itself. It's then taken to be so that all three, the victim, the witness, and the killer of the victim, have the same legal status, which is simple nonsense.

A black comedian had the death of Tupac in his routine, speaking about how some commentators had it that the late crapper had been "assassinated." No, he said, Martin Luther King had been assassinated, Tupac just got shot and killed! Well spoken, that!
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 09:36
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Seems that every generation has to be squeamish about something. Past generations were reluctant to talk openly about sex and other bodily functions, but now language which would have shocked our grandparents is commonplace. On the other hand simply saying that someone is dead seems to be unacceptable, and some euphemism has to be employed, as though that was going to make the situation less painful. Do any other weasel words exasperate you?
I agree entirely. My mum died. A good friend of mine was recently found dead.

Sick animals are no longer put down or put to sleep in the press*. They are euthenised. It's a recent pretension as far as I can recall.

*Sorry... Media.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 10:03
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Wing Nut - sorry it I am repeating a recent thread. I either missed it or more likely I have just forgotten it

I did just remember though that in another thread I had to ask what "kinetic effect" was in relation to air ops. I was never that hot on aerodyamics and I assumed the phrase was related to that. Then somebody kindly informed me "we don't say"bombed/bombing these days". Presumable those on the ground pass away as a result of kinetic effect!
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 12:29
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Recently bumped into a lady we know. She said she'd "lost" her husband a couple of month ago.

I was tempted to suggest she looked in the shed or behind the sofa but thought better of it.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 13:30
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Originally Posted by hiflymk3 View Post
She said she'd "lost" her husband a couple of month ago.
I would accept that - after all, she had, indeed, lost her partner.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 13:50
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Do any other weasel words exasperate you?
Plenty. Listing them would, however, upset the delicate petals on this forum.
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Old 21st Oct 2018, 14:09
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Totally agree that "passed" and "past away" being applied to all the cases often sounds strange if not irritating. Though English is not my native language I definitely know it is very rich and such simplifications look not good.

As for some other exasperating words, I would mention using Mr in front of ultimate scums and sons of a [email protected]@ch. E,g,, when I read/hear that "Mr" Andreas Breivik (that intentionally killed 77 kids in Norway) is complaining about uihumane conditions in prison (having 3 personal cells, can do sport, cooking, playing cards and music) my first reaction is "maybe you call him a gentleman too?"
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