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What Car? Would you not buy?

Old 29th Sep 2018, 15:38
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Can't vouch for the veracity of this, but I believe there was a Porsche of some sort that had one of the ridiculous 'toy' spare wheels in a recess in its boot (at the front). In the event of a flat, the only place the deflated 'real' wheel could be carried once the 'toy' one was in place was on the passenger's lap.

When buying any new car the first thing I check is whether there's space for a proper spare wheel where the '50 miles and not over 50 mph' one is fitted. If so I insist on a real spare to replace the daft one; if no space, no sale.

In idle moments I try to imagine the reaction at a company's design meeting when someone first sugested that their new model should not come equipped with a fully functional spare wheel. Lunatics and asylums spring to mind, but it seems to have become normal.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 15:48
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Originally Posted by Buster11 View Post
In idle moments I try to imagine the reaction at a company's design meeting when someone first sugested that their new model should not come equipped with a fully functional spare wheel. Lunatics and asylums spring to mind, but it seems to have become normal.
See my post #114.

It is all to do with reducing the weight of the car.
No other parameters are considered.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 16:41
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Would never buy a BMW for the simple reason that the bottom hinged accelerator causes a pain in my right ankle after a few miles. Top hinged ones o any of my previous cars cause no issue. Also would always buy a manual over an auto as i prefer to be the one who decides when to change gear.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 18:01
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Any!

I gave up driving regularly by choice about ten years ago (I still have to drive occasionally at work, pool vehicles) but I do not miss it otherwise. I acknowledge the convenience of owning a car, as I also realise that for a number of people it is an essential item; however for me a car has never been anything more than a practical tool, and one that I found I had an ever-decreasing need for.
My closest friend (complete car nerd - his admission) gets very frustrated that I don't see the beauty in them or have a desire to own one ever again; the very notion leaves him aghast. I hire one when absolutely necessary, and I don't much care what they give me; the fewer gadgets the better (ok, I do like to have a radiio in there). Good luck to all who enjoy them though.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 18:03
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Originally Posted by paulc View Post
accelerator causes a pain in my right ankle after a few miles
Ah, now the cruise control is one bit of automation that I do go for.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 18:04
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Some cars have automatic and manual. The Bentley and Lamborghini I drove both had an automatic with optional use of gear paddles on the steering column.☺
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 18:10
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Ah, now the cruise control is one bit of automation that I do go for.
Had cruise control in my primary car for 40 years. The first was a SAAB extra, cost me 64 and I moved it through 5 models with the last two myself as the garages didn't have the ability.

Did a lot of mileage in a Fiesta diesel but very few gear changes required. Then driving a work Focus on the A12 out of town gave me a severe ache in the left leg. Went auto and cruise control as mandatory fit thereafter.
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 21:12
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Very strange.

Pal bought a used Hyundai 16 valve something-or-another SUV. About three grand in nice condition but with rather a lot of miles. Sorry, that's all I know other then it's a big car.

He gets the manual out and starts to learn the details. Lower the spare wheel by . . . oh, shoot!!!!!!!!! Nothing. Nothing except a piece of stainless cable that comes to an abrupt end.

He, and the dealer, conclude that the wheel was stolen by someone getting under and snipping the wire. Hmmmmm , , , not convinced.

Now this bloke is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met, but I'm still not sure. The previous owner for many years, a lady, was not aware of the problem whatsoever. Never given it a thought.

Okay, so there's a chance it may have been one of the huge full sized wheels. Hence the temptation to nick it. But wait, would they, could they, in the maddest of moments, hang a vast wheel on one wire, for years and years and years?

My little BMW has a bolt with a large plastic knob. One removes this in the boot, and then lowers A CRADLE with the spare in it.

I just can not believe a wheel can just hang. What think you?


My ex BMW 635d thing had no spare. I still have the 4 wheels with new tyres and one spare rim. Bloke that bought the car only wanted the fun wheels I put on to learn to handle the car. (Sheeesh, that two-stage EDS is beyond magic.)

Whan I buy a car, I always put on the space-saver wheel and check it out. Even my MB E500 Sport had one. The car drove surprisingly well with it on even the front. Yes, 50mph, but I know of no distance limit.


Psssst! Anyone want a set of wheels. Know what I mean, John?
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Old 29th Sep 2018, 21:15
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Originally Posted by TLDNMCL View Post
I gave up driving regularly by choice about ten years ago (I still have to drive occasionally at work, pool vehicles) but I do not miss it otherwise. I acknowledge the convenience of owning a car, as I also realise that for a number of people it is an essential item; however for me a car has never been anything more than a practical tool, and one that I found I had an ever-decreasing need for.
I hire one when absolutely necessary, and I don't much care what they give me; the fewer gadgets the better (ok, I do like to have a radio in there). Good luck to all who enjoy them though.
Me too. Occasionally I miss the convenience but the rental place is 10 mins up the road...
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 09:19
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I gave up my car earlier this year because it was costing me a 1/mile just for tax and insurance. There is a mass of convenient local and national transport options of which most is free. When I need a car I rent one but I avoid the renters trick of letting you have the car for peanuts but stinging you for excess insurance; I have my own excess insurance up to 35,000 for 45/year.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 10:02
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Originally Posted by ian16th View Post
See my post #114.

It is all to do with reducing the weight of the car.
No other parameters are considered.
They pare away at everything to get the weight down..reducing the capacity of the windscreen washer bottle, plastic body panels instead of metal etc. The Mazda MX5 even has holes in the lower portion of the door windows below sill level to shave off a few grammes.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 10:05
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I avoid the renters trick of letting you have the car for peanuts but stinging you for excess insurance; I have my own excess insurance up to 35,000 for 45/year.
Me too, thanks to somebody on PPRuNe mentioning it before. Before that I took the risk, but far too many nutters on the road...
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 10:06
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I just can not believe a wheel can just hang
Not unusual. Same arrangement on a Ford Transit that I used to drive. Wheel never fell off.

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Old 30th Sep 2018, 12:55
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The Bentley and Lamborghini I drove both had an automatic with optional use of gear paddles on the steering column
Just like our second car. Schhhh - it's a Smart Car.

Our main car is an auto with a Tiptronic box. No prizes for guessing what that is.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 13:00
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Our main car is an auto with a Tiptronic box. No prizes for guessing what that is.
Hyundai? My 2002 Sonata had one of those.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 13:47
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Hy what ?

Sorry - there's a three-pointed star on the front and rear.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 18:56
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Saw a DeLorean today, 'W' suffix VRN. As far as I remember it's the first i have seen.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 19:40
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SB, saw one a few years ago at the local filling station. Unmistakable but a bit tatty.
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Old 30th Sep 2018, 19:48
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Not a specific model, but a car with an electric handbrake.
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Let's combine yours with Chevrron (two posts later).

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Old 30th Sep 2018, 23:15
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Originally Posted by layman View Post
Full sized spares are essential when driving in regional areas (hundreds of km to next town). Remote areas even more so - some carry two spares!
'Run-flat' tyres cannot even get you (safely) to the next town.
Four flats in 40+ years - three 'foreign' objects spiking the tyre; one where the valve stem 'melted' !!
Drove from Glasgow to Leicester all the way on a run flat. The car was even usable the following day before finally giving up the ghost.
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