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What Car? Would you not buy?

Old 25th Sep 2018, 07:11
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Wouldn't buy an Audi either; understeering carriages from hell they are. Nice interior, and quite comfortable, but they're anything but comfortable negotiating a series of twists in the road. I'm rather convinced there's an electronic gizmo sending a coded message to Ingolstadt whenever you turn the wheel, with the car only changing direction once it's received approval to do so from HQ. Nice interiors though.
I would have said that they can change lane, but unfortunately the indicators and rear view mirrors don't work properly. Thankfully, yesterday the horn on my car did work and prevented a collision. I prefer to keep the side of my car intact. The Audi driver seemed very angry that I should even be there alongside her tank in the lane she wanted.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 07:30
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All these "faults" seem to be just owners preferences. I had an A3 for years and it seemed OK to me and Mrs RG. My daughter has an Q5 without any probs. The Q3 she had before saved her and baby's life when a motorcyclist drove into the front at speed. He died and they were OK. Certainly tough.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 07:40
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Ford. Any Ford. If the transmission doesn't self-destruct, the head gasket will.
... and if they don't, a tie rod bolt will fall out on a mine haul road, with a 105 ton ore truck bearing down on you. DAMHIKT. I, also, will never touch another Ford.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 08:09
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Have driven Fords for over 20 years now and never had a breakdown!!
From Escorts to the Ka, through the Puma, Focus and Fiesta.
Ka needed a new steering rack after 4 years, so that was a setback, but I
drove a Puma for nearly 11 years without a problem, needed a seat belt mounting
welded on one MOT and a couple of minor fails but all told I would say that it
probably cost me no more than two to three hundred pounds over that time.
Sold it for 2500 and bought a Fiesta ST which I've had for four years now
and still no breakdowns, like it so much that I am now buying a new one.
Maybe I've been lucky.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 08:34
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ANY diesel.
How on earth did that stinking, smokey, slimy fuel ever manage to be considered eco friendly?
And then you get it on your shoes at the filling station and walk it onto your car and house carpets.
And then they drop it on the road and you have to rescue victims from the ditch.
And then it freezes up and you have to light a fire under the fuel tank!
NO thanks.

and I am now running for shelter from the diesel fans' responses!
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 08:37
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All these "faults" seem to be just owners preferences.
Bearing in mind the title, isn't that what the thread is all about?
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 08:45
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I did about 150,000 miles in a series of Peugeot 405. A really competent car. Then, a few years ago I hired a small Peugeot and discovered that one of the headlamp bulbs had gone. It took a mechanic about 30 minutes and lots of tools to replace that bulb. I wouldn't buy any car that I couldn't change a bulb myself in about 5 minutes. What is the point in the French insisting that you carry spare bulbs when they allow cars to be sold for which it requires outside assistance to replace them. Crazy!
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 08:51
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Originally Posted by DType View Post
ANY diesel.
How on earth did that stinking, smokey, slimy fuel ever manage to be considered eco friendly?
And then you get it on your shoes at the filling station and walk it onto your car and house carpets.
And then they drop it on the road and you have to rescue victims from the ditch.
And then it freezes up and you have to light a fire under the fuel tank!
NO thanks.

and I am now running for shelter from the diesel fans' responses!
In order:
1. Don't ask me, flawed politics I suppose, an ignorant government convinced by a political need to reduce CO2 emissions (then once they had convinced enough car owners to use it, they disproportionately increase the tax on it).
2. I'm careful enough not to spill it or tread on that spilled by others (and I take my shoes off in the house).
3. Agreed, as a motorcyclist I once got caught out when a Transit van driver had no fuel cap on his tank and about a gallon of diesel flooded the sharp corner right in front of me. Still have the reminder on my elbow some 45 years later!
4. You're about fifty years out of date with that; modern winter grade diesel doesn't easily wax up and so that's no longer required in most climates. I do remember seeing HGV drivers doing it up until about 1968.

But quite a few "petrol headed" people have been passengers in my (fast) diesel saloon and didn't believe me when I told them it was diesel engined.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 09:13
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Some very useful answers here. Interesting to see no Japanese or Korean cars or Vauxhalls feature. I have been anti Vauxhall since I brained myself getting out of the back of one, and the drivers seat collapsing on another of you cornered at more than 1.1g
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 09:45
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Years ago I got allocated a Mondeo from the company car pool. Bit if a hot ship, low profiles, 2.2 engine, hard suspension, but nobody seemed to want it.

After driving it down to the South of France, I began to ache in all sorts of places. Turns out the front seats were moulded to the shape of a 22 year old boy racer, and seat "wings" ostensibly to prevent "head wobble" on cornering, problem was my "wings" were incompatible with the Mondeo's wings, hence the aching back/side/neck problems. Dumped the Mondeo at the first opportunity.

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Old 25th Sep 2018, 09:54
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Originally Posted by TangoAlphad View Post
I've had a few Vauxhalls.. while fairly bland they have been reliable and cost effective. Few wee niggles here and there but they are cheap (if bought used.. definitely letting someone else take the hit on the depreciation of a Vx).
I once was given a six month old Vauxhall Vectra as a company car. It was without doubt the worst handling barge of a car I've ever driven. I ditched it as soon as I was allowed to (not literally, but it came close a couple of times). I'm not afraid to say I'll never own any Vauxhall in the future. I did previously enjoy driving an old Vauxhall Victor estate (1960s) with a column gear change and a three speed gearbox; that had real character, a nice exhaust note and handled better!
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 10:28
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Originally Posted by DType View Post
How on earth did that stinking, smokey, slimy fuel ever manage to be considered eco friendly?
Depends what you're measuring. It beats petrol on CO2 emissions.

When I bought my last diesel I naiively thought the DPF would sort out the particulate emissions, and didn't even know about the NO2 issue. The higher torque at lower revs suited my driving.

Fuel went waxy on me on a very cold (-20 C) day in the Alps; my previous fill had been from a truck filling pump, and I'm speculating they don't have the same additives (maybe trucks have their own additives or fuel warming systems?). Couple of years later the DPF blocked and was going to cost a fortune to fix, so I ditched the car.

Replaced a 2 litre Diesel Mazda with a 1.4 litre petrol Skoda; the Skoda feels both torquier and more powerful than the Mazda; so far I have zero inclination to get another diesel car, or another Mazda.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 10:31
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Yellow ones. I doubt even the UN could adjudicate the 'Yellow Car Game' successfully in our family.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:07
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Originally Posted by pasta View Post
Replaced a 2 litre Diesel Mazda with a 1.4 litre petrol Skoda; the Skoda feels both torquier and more powerful than the Mazda; so far I have zero inclination to get another diesel car, or another Mazda.
Driven petrol engined Mazda's for the last 16 years.
Driven my current 2.3l Mazda6 'Atenza' for 11 years from new, only problem, the low profile tyres are wrong for the roads where I now live in. Should have swapped the wheels & tyres when I moved.

Wouldn't buy, anything French, Italian or a current Ford.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:10
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Originally Posted by pulse1 View Post
I did about 150,000 miles in a series of Peugeot 405. A really competent car. Then, a few years ago I hired a small Peugeot and discovered that one of the headlamp bulbs had gone. It took a mechanic about 30 minutes and lots of tools to replace that bulb. I wouldn't buy any car that I couldn't change a bulb myself in about 5 minutes. What is the point in the French insisting that you carry spare bulbs when they allow cars to be sold for which it requires outside assistance to replace them. Crazy!
Then I suggest you forget about buying a new car.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:12
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New cars are fast becoming like mobile phones - people just want to play with the buttons rather than use it as was intended. They are not for me obviously as I've been trying to update for the last 5 years and all that electronic crap puts me right off.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:40
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Originally Posted by cattletruck View Post
They are not for me obviously as I've been trying to update for the last 5 years and all that electronic crap puts me right off.
Exept for engine/gearbox and safety management and safety , the rest of the "crap" is not mandatory to use.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:42
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My current vehicle of conveyance is an XG Ford Falcon Ute! A 4 litre straight 6 engine fitted with extractors and a sports exhaust system and a five speed manual transmission. Chassis is set up with mag wheels and a race/rally suspension. Goes 'round corners as if glued to the tarmac!! And will carry just over 600kg in the tray.

What I would NOT buy; Anything....., even a Ferrari/Maserati/Lamborghini/whatever....with an automatic transmission!

I will not drive any car unless it has a clutch pedal operating a manual gearbox! End of.......

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Old 25th Sep 2018, 11:43
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all that electronic crap puts me right off
Me too. I only drive hire cars these days, usually for 24 hours - too much tech wizzardry, all I want to do is be able to get from here to there and back again and be able to easily operate lights, wipers, heater, etc. Also had one car, pulled up at the fuel pump and took ages to find out how to open the filler cap. Little lever secreted under the dash-board. Another had a tail gate that defied opening until I happened to put my hand on the rear badge! Later realised the key had a release as well! Usually ask now...

First car I drove that had automatic lights was impressive until it went full beam in the countryside and I was fiddling with the switches, wondering how on earth to dip them when a car came the other way - oh it does that too, phew, the other car was a police car. I'd been delayed by a bad accident on the M25, should have been at my destination well before sunset.
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Old 25th Sep 2018, 12:10
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Had the misfortune to drive a Nissan Micra hire car for a few days ( booked by my company).

What a piece of crap. But the Cruze was worse.

It was like they'd mated the engine to a random auto box out of a parts bin, and had never

tested them together before mass production.
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