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Old 29th Aug 2018, 13:55
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BBC 1 .... 6 parter .......2 been on so catch up ..... 9 pm.....
No aviation content but that's not important ..
Raises the issue of troops returning from Afghanistan with PTSD with ample helping of Terrorist activities in London and how the Government reacts

Looks good so far
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 15:37
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I was a bit disappointed with it, to be honest.
The first episode got me going early on when the officer in charge of the armed police response team was a female. Then the explosives officer turned up and was also female. At the same time, the police had a sniper in place and the gender was.. female!
I was beginning to think I was watching a TV episode of Jenni Murray's Woman's hour!
Later, the Hero's commanding officer in the police was a woman and her boss, the Met's anti terrorist team was also a woman, as was the anti-hero of the piece, the Home Secretary.
Oh, and the suicide bomber (failed) was a woman.
I soon fund myself muttering to self about the BBC having gone mad in a race to get all the boxes ticked re representation of race and gender.
I have nothing at all against women playing leading roles in anything, they are often outperforming some of their male counterparts in real life and long may they do so. However, Bodyguard has gone overboard, presumably to satisfy or head off those critics that would quite often be getting on the equality band wagon. This has even gone to the extent of the Met anti terrorist team leader being portrayed as a victim of political intrigue coming from an unlikable male head of MI5.
As for the hero, his part is written from some other playbooks; troubled personal life, separated from his wife, throws iPhone at the wall in an expression of some outrage or frustration, never switches on the lights in his own flat etc. All of these are traits that can be seen in countless other films.
I think my personal disappointment was heightened by the fact I had been looking forward to this as the author's previous work, Line of Duty, was an absolute cracker of a piece. Bodyguard, so far at least, comes nowhere near that one.
Still, living in hope, I look forward to the next episode
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 15:42
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Who watches BBC ....................
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 15:59
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I am still trying to get to grips with the transition of Keeley Hawes from a rather feeble Mrs Durrel to a tough Home Secretary being humped by her bodyguard.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 16:42
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Gave up after 30 minutes! Boss cop on train was female, cop sniper was female, bomb disposal cop was female, bodyguard's boss was female, bodyguard protecting female minister. Are the BBC biased towards casting women these days?
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Who watches BBC ....................
Exactly, back in the day when either the beeb or an ITV company produced a drama or period drama, it was the nuts, well we did not have anything else.
These days they look like a Tescos special compared to Netflix or Amazon offerings, ITV is trailing a new period Drama Vanity fair, given that the trail should highlight the show its looks cheap and dreadful.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 16:49
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KelvinD,

You do realise that women make up more than half of the population don't you? And that we DID have a female Home Secretary, we DO have a female Prime Minister, that the head of the Met Police IS a woman, that there ARE female snipers, that the head of MI5 WAS a woman...

I guess now you know how most women feel when they watch stuff that is ALL men.

My only observation is that compared to real life everyone on film or TV is a lot younger and a lot better looking than reality!
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Forgot it was on and missed it. After reading the above I wont bother finding it on catchup.

I was watching a 1960s horror film the other day where the main role of the female lead seemed to be to stand looking decorative in a dress and scream while the hero (male) dealt with the monster. I said to Mrs TTN that if the film was made now, the heroine would be in combat trousers, sleeveless vest and a baseball cap, and would be karate kicking the monster while shouting "take that, you motherf***er"! Seems to me that things have swung a bit too far.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 17:07
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Actually I thought it was pretty good. Another angle might be that the Beeb are only reflecting real,life as has been pointed out. Quite a lot of built up suspense and the poor, obviously psychologically damaged guy is heading for a meltdown at some stage. You could counter argue that Aunty B is being somewhat subversive in reflecting reality and the pressures on modern man, particularly returning war veterans.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 17:08
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The continuity is apparently frightful - swmbo keeps complaining about it. White to grey shirt, and back again: different shoes, & so on.
On a different matter, it seems fashionable to knock the BBC, but no matter their faults, they have one insuperable advantage: NO ADVERTS.
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On a different matter, it seems fashionable to knock the BBC, but no matter their faults, they have one insuperable advantage: NO ADVERTS.
Only true if you ignore the many adverts for their own programs.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 19:16
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Originally Posted by pr00ne View Post
KelvinD,

You do realise that women make up more than half of the population don't you? And that we DID have a female Home Secretary, we DO have a female Prime Minister, that the head of the Met Police IS a woman, that there ARE female snipers, that the head of MI5 WAS a woman...

I guess now you know how most women feel when they watch stuff that is ALL men.

My only observation is that compared to real life everyone on film or TV is a lot younger and a lot better looking than reality!

All absolutely true ! but they canít all be women surely?
The bodyguard is Scottish( UK ethnic content covered) but itís missing a couple of physically challenged persons as backroom computer wizards. However it is good to see Ms Durrel finally getting her leg over .

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Old 29th Aug 2018, 19:31
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Interesting the point you make about female actions. many productions seem to feel that every major character should be female or ethnic minority in a world where that is unlikely to be the case, its almost like they have a different producer for each scene , oh lets make the sniper a woman, lets make the agent a woman , lets make the PM a woman . Its a trait I think applies across the board. It also shows up that women pick the wrong battles ( tin hat on) worrying about women getting Tv parts but overlooking plans to remove Mrs Pankhurst from Parliament Square or stealing the pensions of a couple of million women
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 19:40
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I watched it via BBC iplayer online (and a proxy as the BBC is restricted to the UK only), well, the first two episodes, primarily because it was written/directed or whatever by that Jed fellow, thought it might be good.

Very disappointed, other than so many plot holes as to genuinely find it hard to suspend disbelief, it just was unbelievable period, kind of fiction made for TV rather than sort of reality that might/might not come across well on TV.

In the real world I suspect the chances of the lead anti-terrorist officer on the ground to be black and female to be around zero, give or take zero percent. But this isn't the real world, it's BBC Drama, where inclusion is likely a criteria for funding.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 19:45
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I forgot to mention that I havenít actually watched the programme .. just based my observation on previous BBC experience . Was I close ?
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Shortly after the start of ep2 I said to the wife "He's either going to shoot her or [email protected] her." I was right, and maybe will be on both counts.....
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pr00ne: May I point you to the following part of my post:
I have nothing at all against women playing leading roles in anything, they are often outperforming some of their male counterparts in real life and long may they do so.
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 20:20
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Shortly after the start of ep2 I said to the wife "He's either going to shoot her or [email protected] her." I was right, and maybe will be on both counts.....
Oo-err. Hope he got those in the right sequence.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 11:58
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
I think my personal disappointment was heightened by the fact I had been looking forward to this as the author's previous work, Line of Duty, was an absolute cracker of a piece. Bodyguard, so far at least, comes nowhere near that one
Agreed. I do wonder to what extent the writer was overruled by the BBC's diversity police.
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 13:09
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I like plot-holes in TV dramas it allows me to irritate SWMBO by pointing them out.

Iím enjoying Bodyguard. Like Line of Duty it is one of the few programmes I watch without at the same time reading a book.

As to Ďtoo many womení until mentioned on JB I hadnít really noticed.
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