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Should Boris apologise for writing this?

Old 8th Aug 2018, 18:43
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Originally Posted by Grayfly View Post
As has been said on this thread and many other threads in JB we have allowed the lunatics to run the asylum.
The last fifty years appears to have been an experiment to see what happens if you let people with absolutely no experience of the real world tell everyone else what to do.

An experiment which will soon end, one way or another. We can only hope it's as bloodless an end as the similar experiment in the USSR.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Then of course, there's always been this one -

Most pointless family photo ever - The Meta Picture

That's Wife #1 on the left next to my daughter....No hang on, she's next to my sister, not my daugher....Or is that my mother she's next to....But if that's my mother, where's my daugher - perhaps she's the one on the right and she's next next to my sister...Or is that Wife #2 and which wife is she next to because if my sister is on the left and my daughter on the right, then which one's Wife #1 and which one's Wife #2....Or maybe that's Wife #3, not Wife #2, but where then is my sister...Etc, etc, etc....
That photo reminds me of a time in the lobby of a hotel at Jeddah Airport, a good few years ago now. 5 or 6 penquines, (we saw their eyes, that was it) graced us with their presence in passing. A group of local young men obviously saw considerably more, as they began to wolf whistle at the sight. One of the crew was in hysterics and had to leave the seen. Maybe the whistlers had x-ray vision.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:35
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I have never understood how the huggy fluffy lefties, who seem to be so in favour of Muslim women wearing the burka, don't seem to give a damn about the poor women who are forced to wear it by their male relatives.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:45
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In Saudi, even non Muslim women are expected to cover completely in public places
Rubbish. We lived there for five years and that was not a requirement. Have you lived there ?
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 19:56
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Not in my opinion. I find the burqa offensive, not Boris. What a sad mess this has become: the media coverage, along with all of the PC comment, lack of humour, political posturing, and lack of cultural respect on the part of our Muslim citizens casts a dim shadow over today's way of life in our beloved land.

I am not anti-Muslim, bigotted or racist. Many of my students were Muslim, and I worked for five years among them in their homelands, always respectful of their culture whilst so doing. I am annoyed that there are not a few of them that refuse to do so in my country, especially when we grant them citizenship. Unfortunately, our PC brigade and others do not see things that way. And I agree with you dook, but there were other restrictions forced upon us, which one ignored at great peril!

I'll leave the rest for the pub and K&C. Good evening.

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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:09
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I would have thought Boris has used great tact in saying it resembles a letter box. Would it have been less offensive if he had said it looks like a clothes bank.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Hussar 54 View Post
Then of course, there's always been this one -

Most pointless family photo ever - The Meta Picture

That's Wife #1 on the left next to my daughter....No hang on, she's next to my sister, not my daugher....Or is that my mother she's next to....But if that's my mother, where's my daugher - perhaps she's the one on the right and she's next next to my sister...Or is that Wife #2 and which wife is she next to because if my sister is on the left and my daughter on the right, then which one's Wife #1 and which one's Wife #2....Or maybe that's Wife #3, not Wife #2, but where then is my sister...Etc, etc, etc....

It’s really ridiculous when you see it in that context. I have got to continue to be PC, but I did have to go to the toilet because it was necessary and I couldn’t hold it in.

Read the article he was on their side.

Well at least some of us can still laugh for the present, how long is this warm weather going to last? When it’s gone we’ll be back to the usual I’m better than you crowd.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:29
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Letter in the Telegraph:

SIR – After reading Boris Johnson’s article I’ll think twice before posting letters just in case I make an unfortunate mistake.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:53
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Letter in the Telegraph:
People mjght not think much of Telegraph readers.

Letter boxes are RED.😎
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 20:54
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Luckily at my age I very rarely see RED burkas.��
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 21:09
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Originally Posted by dook View Post
Rubbish. We lived there for five years and that was not a requirement. Have you lived there ?

Ill be honest - I haven’t, although reading this guide to the expected dress code, it seems that what is acceptable and what is not, is a potential minefield. Therefore, it’s probably the easiest - and safest option - to reluctantly cover up completely, especially in Riyadh.

https://www.expatwoman.com/saudi-ara...for-foreigners
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 23:07
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For quite a while, there were Blue postboxes in Britain as well as red.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 01:33
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45114368, from which:
Dominic Grieve, the ex-attorney general, said he would quit the party if Mr Johnson became leader.
Now that could be a way of encouraging me to want Boris to become leader!
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 02:43
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Originally Posted by DON T View Post


People mjght not think much of Telegraph readers.

Letter boxes are RED.😎
Nope.
Royal Mail post boxes are red.
A letter box can be any colour.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 03:42
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The Scottish Conservative leader, Ruth Davidson, has now weighed in against Boris. Has she (as a lesbian) ever considered what her survival prospects would be under an Islamic regime? Fool or useful idiot?
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 04:30
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I wonder if this will ever get repeated on the BBC
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 05:35
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Originally Posted by Trossie View Post
KnC as ever supporting the oppressors of women for one simple reason: attempting to 'points score' against his political foes. "My enemy's enemy is my friend - regardless if my enemy's enemy is wrong or not"

(NB, to me all religions are 'cults'.)
Nope.... wrong again with regard to your opening line......

However, I would just like to point out, that, with regard to my comments about Boris, they were posted before this interview was broadcast live on air.....less one be accused of plagiarism .....and if you, and indeed the rest of the Boris Adoration Society ( JB Chapter ) care to watch and listen....this combination may be problematic for some......., plus the interview is conducted by K G-M, the devil incarnate himself for many contributors, you may, just, note several comments are very similar to my own, and other contributors, with regard to.......Boris.

This negates the "political point scoring " ......now doesn't it.

https://www.channel4.com/news/boris-...tical-populism

And never let it be said the Guardian offends public decency......with the choice of orifice depicted rather than a more apt location. ......although to be fair to Boris, it can be difficult to make the distinction.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mments-cartoon

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Old 9th Aug 2018, 07:32
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The Times letter column today......

Sir, Boris Johnson should not apologise for telling the truth. His evocative analogy is unfortunate but he is justified in reminding everyone that the Wahhabi/Salafi-inspired fad of female facial masking has no Koranic legitimacy. It is, however, a nefarious component of a trendy gateway theology for religious extremism and militant Islam.

The burka and niqab are hideous tribal ninja-like garments that are pre-Islamic, non-Koranic and therefore un-Muslim. Although this deliberate identity-concealing contraption is banned at the Kaaba in Mecca it is permitted in Britain, thus precipitating security risks, accelerating vitamin D deficiency, endorsing gender-inequality and inhibiting community cohesion.

The retrogressive Islamic clergy has succeeded in persuading ill-informed Muslims through suspect secondary sources that God wants women to cover their faces, when in reality it is a toxic patriarchy controlling women. Is it any wonder that many younger women have internalised this poisonous chauvinism by asserting that it is their human right to hide their faces? Johnson did not go far enough. If Britain is to become a fully integrated society then it is incumbent that cultural practices, personal preferences and communal customs that aggravate social division should be firmly resisted. For this reason Britain must emulate France, Belgium, Austria, Bulgaria and Denmark in banning the burka.

Dr Taj Hargey

Imam, Oxford Islamic Congregation


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Old 9th Aug 2018, 09:11
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It was perhaps a coincidence that yesterday three white men were found guilty of murder and manslaughter. One of the men chose a burqa as a disguise. That is not the first time it has been used and its use might be more frequent than we know.

Regarding wearing the costume or design of ones host country is more problematic. Would you expect a woman or a man as well, used to wearing flamboyant costume in their home country to wear dowdy western clothing as we have, especially in winter? Do we still describe our own countrymen who adopt local costume when overseas as 'gone native'?

I know one Hindu who was denied access to a country club as he refused to wear trousers, shoes and socks rather than a dhoti. There was no national outrage as a result. In England OTOH his dress elicited no such ban or comment.
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Old 9th Aug 2018, 12:43
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Possible Tory Enquiry

Boris Johnson is facing a possible investigation into breaches of the Conservative Party code of conduct.
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