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Old 18th Jun 2018, 07:55
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Car SOS

Anyone else seen this show? Last night they introduced the MkII Jaguar with a voiceover of film showing MkI and MkVII Jags. Then they went to collect a silver MkII for restoration and left in it's place a maroon Daimler V8 250 to fool the owner into thinking that his car was still in his garage. Surely TV companies could recruit people with IQ's above 75.
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 08:57
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In a locked garage under a tarpaulin for a very short time, no?
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Old 18th Jun 2018, 09:25
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Strange thing was, for such a hefty engine, they didn't last long. 60k and they sounded a tad . . . used. Mind you, they were used back then. Open roads for hours at night.

Sold it to someone at Dan Dare for £350 ish. My mate, while at Monarch, sold his, factory lowered suspension and recent head overhaul, for £250, and he only got that because I was at the auction and I reminded the bloke there was a lower limit on it. The buyer just nodded at the extra fifty quid.

The cornering on the lowered suspension was a hint of what was to come. This one rolled way too much but I suppose we were used to it in those days.

When the XJ6 came along, it was a wonderful ride, bounding over the heaving bumps of roads built on our clay. However, despite the new tyres gripping like nothing I'd ever known, it still rolled terribly on corners. Way out of kilter with the incredible long legs of the 4.2 with 4 and O/Drive.
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I too like car restoration programs, but I can’t stand it when the production crew create and stage arguments between the presenters, so you have blazing rows in the garage. Instant turn off for me. I want to know how engineering things are done, not watch stupid made-up arguments between twats.

Wheeler dealers is the best for me, but I cringe at most of the ‘dealing’ parts, (sorry Mike), and just watch the Ed China parts. That’s how to do it. Quiet, reasoned explanations and demonstrations. I can do/have done most of what Ed does, (apart from body work and paint), but it is really nice to watch an expert demonstrate stuff in a roomy dry workshop with the proper tools - and a car lift !!!!

Beats sodding about lying on a wet driveway with the car 1” above my nose........

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This show had special interest for me as my dad was a motor engineer who worked mostly on Jaguars. He used to hate them for their, as he saw, unnecessary complications. I think that the relatively short engine life was a result of the high specific power output. They also mentioned on the show last night a tendency for the oil ways to clog resulting a lack of lubrication. The 2.4 was probably in many ways the better car due to the relatively low stressed engine, added to which the buyers of that model were far less inclined to drive them hard.
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Superb! Would love to be able to own and drive a Mk II but there is not much of this lifetime left now, so not this time around. Can't afford a classic Jag or a modern beast either, so against all opposition (mainly the one who shall not be named) I recently took the middle road and sourced an as-new Type X 2.1L petrol Estate with all the bells and whistles for really very little in the scheme of things. Loving the dials and needles. Instant Car SOS!
(Here in Japan no likelihood of getting nailed or losing the leaping cat.)
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Favourite trick back in the day was to take them for a damn good thrash, and then pull in to a garage and ask your favourite petrol pump attendant (remember them?) to check the oil. Owners will know what a pig it is to get the oil filler cap off when the engine’s hot.
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Between 1967 and 1970 I owned a 2.4 Mk I and a 3.4 Mk II - selling the latter to 'save' for my wedding.
It was estimated that for the cost (including oil!) of running the 3.4 I could travel by first class rail.
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Between 1967 and 1970 I owned a 2.4 Mk I and a 3.4 Mk II - selling the latter to 'save' for my wedding.
It was estimated that for the cost (including oil!) of running the 3.4 I could travel by first class rail.
When we were living in Scotland I owned an XJ-S, the worst car I've ever owned but one I had lusted after for some time. I was even stupid enough to trade in a BMW 325i for it. I found that, rather bizarrely, it was cheaper to drive the Jag from Scotland to Cornwall than it was to use the train, with the cheapest tickets I could find. It did make me wonder about the rationale behind train ticket pricing, that they could manage to make the train fare cost more per mile than running what had to be one of the least economical cars ever made.
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When we were living in Scotland I owned an XJ-S, the worst car I've ever owned
Owned a couple of these penis extensions, comfy, good goers but total rust buckets. My last one had an electric fault that the garage couldn't locate and I had to let it go for next to nothing.
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Cost of oil? Duckhams at a quid a gallon. Don't know if it was a good oil, but it was a pretty green.


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I ran a Mk I 2.4 in Hong Kong and it was great fun, but I suspect just about any average family car would show it a clean pair of heels these days. I can still remember the lovely smell of leather though

It was estimated that for the cost (including oil!) of running the 3.4 I could travel by first class rail.
A few years back my son bought a 1984 4.2 Sovereign with about 55k on the clock. The previous (second) owner had kept all the bills since buying it with around 10K on the clock and only doing a few thousand miles a year. Son worked out that with depreciation, but excluding petrol (the chap hadnt kept fuel bills), the car had cost around £1 a mile to run!
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Yes, if you don't use a car much the cost is horrible. I mentioned some time back about a low mileage Bently that seemed extraordinary value at sixty K. About £7 mile in depreciation alone.

My BM635d wasn't too bad given what it was, but the costs of it sitting there day after day became more than I could handle - mostly because of LV's obscene increases (despite their promises before I bought it.)

It was, without doubt, the most stupid purchase of my life. Well, if you don't count the time I bought an E-Type when my new wife needed a washing machine. It didn't stay long. Oddly, I don't have a single photo of either of my E-Types. The 4.2 was horrible by comparison. Not the same grunt as the 3.8.

I talked to the first owner of the 4.2 just the other day. We've both got very different lives now. We'd both got aircraft and fun cars, though he was orders of magnitude more able to afford them than me. He was my dentist. The trouble was, he used fantastic cars to commute to work and they were not the examples one would want to purchase after a while. Oh, and he was on telly when he retired professionally because he started a company making Ferrari replicas.

As an aside, I flew his au pair to LHR on lovely summer morning. Coming back, we, the Rivetess and I, got cleared direct to (Suffolk) not above 500'. Wife was looking down at her former office in Piccadilly Circus. What days. Where did they go?
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And now for the most awful thing on God's green earth, the Mitsuoka Beaut MkII Jag tinpot.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%85...ase)_front.JPG
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There always used to be one of those hideous things parked near the Flyers bar in Narita. I used to wonder what crazed, twisted mind thought it was a good idea, either to make or buy!
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A friend of mine achieved what I think could be a record for loss on depreciation. He bought a two year old Bentley Sport for fifty quid short of a hundred grand. Two years and 4,000 miles later he traded it in for £62,000. £9.50 per mile!
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I bought a Chrysler Avenger 1600 for £250, spent £30 on it to get it through the MOT, ran it for three years during which time I spent £16 on a new alternator and £20 on a battery. Finally sold it for £480. Obviously, that was a real classic!
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